The future 911 range, including the GT3, will exclusively use turbocharged six-cylind
08-06-2018, 03:11 PM
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Both of you are saying that there is no lag compared to other brands but there is not the same response as NA. Where I live (high altitude), the lag of the 488 (if you agree there is "any") would be magnified due to the reduced static compression before building boost. If I could detect None, I would be shocked!
Lets face it, a FI car will always drive differently than a NA one. It’s nature of things.
Some FI cars will drive differently (or more like a NA one) than others but at the end of the day it’s still a FI engine.
Whether you want to call that “turbo lag” or just the character of a FI engine may ultimately be just a case of semantics, but I know this much. Having driven a 488 the variability in boost across the rev range did not bother me at all, and it was not noticeable in the least.
Does it mean it had no lag? No, of course not. But it does mean it had no noticeable lag.
08-06-2018, 03:14 PM
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08-06-2018, 03:17 PM
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Im not here to prove you wrong. I’m just telling after two years of ownership my experience with the car. Both ipse and I are telling you the same thing. The video is bogus. Go and drive a 488. You will enjoy the experience.
08-06-2018, 03:17 PM
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I am willing to declare NO LAG, if I can perceive None (not worried about any degree of lag that I cannot detect from driving).
08-06-2018, 03:24 PM
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08-06-2018, 03:26 PM
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Any experience above 5,000 ft elevation? I drive between 5k and 14k (rarely, but frequently over 8k). The thin air makes a turbo motor both more valuable (makes much more power/tq than an equivalently rate NA motor) and makes the lag much worse.
08-06-2018, 03:33 PM
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08-06-2018, 03:41 PM
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Thank you
08-06-2018, 05:18 PM
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Looks like Motor1 is on the otherside
"Dr. Frank-Steffen Walliser, Porsche Vice President of Motorsport and GT Cars, says that the next GT3 retains a naturally aspirated engine. Rumors suggest an updated engine could have an astronomical 9,500-rpm redline.
The latest Porsche 911 RSR made the revolutionary switch to using a mid-mounted engine instead of the model's venerable layout of putting the powerplant in the rear. This change has led to a few customers to ask the company for a road-going version. GT car development boss Andreas Preuninger says there's at least a chance of this vehicle going into production"
https://www.motor1.com/news/261091/porsche-911-everything-we-know/
"Dr. Frank-Steffen Walliser, Porsche Vice President of Motorsport and GT Cars, says that the next GT3 retains a naturally aspirated engine. Rumors suggest an updated engine could have an astronomical 9,500-rpm redline.
The latest Porsche 911 RSR made the revolutionary switch to using a mid-mounted engine instead of the model's venerable layout of putting the powerplant in the rear. This change has led to a few customers to ask the company for a road-going version. GT car development boss Andreas Preuninger says there's at least a chance of this vehicle going into production"
https://www.motor1.com/news/261091/porsche-911-everything-we-know/
08-06-2018, 05:29 PM
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Looks like Motor1 is on the otherside
"Dr. Frank-Steffen Walliser, Porsche Vice President of Motorsport and GT Cars, says that the next GT3 retains a naturally aspirated engine. Rumors suggest an updated engine could have an astronomical 9,500-rpm redline.
The latest Porsche 911 RSR made the revolutionary switch to using a mid-mounted engine instead of the model's venerable layout of putting the powerplant in the rear. This change has led to a few customers to ask the company for a road-going version. GT car development boss Andreas Preuninger says there's at least a chance of this vehicle going into production"
https://www.motor1.com/news/261091/p...thing-we-know/
"Dr. Frank-Steffen Walliser, Porsche Vice President of Motorsport and GT Cars, says that the next GT3 retains a naturally aspirated engine. Rumors suggest an updated engine could have an astronomical 9,500-rpm redline.
The latest Porsche 911 RSR made the revolutionary switch to using a mid-mounted engine instead of the model's venerable layout of putting the powerplant in the rear. This change has led to a few customers to ask the company for a road-going version. GT car development boss Andreas Preuninger says there's at least a chance of this vehicle going into production"
https://www.motor1.com/news/261091/p...thing-we-know/
08-06-2018, 09:59 PM
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08-06-2018, 11:45 PM
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08-07-2018, 03:02 AM
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I have no idea if it will or will not be a turbo...but it is...then bring it on. A junior-GT2 like car with 550hp and torque to match would be a killer.
And by the results of the Spa 24hr, I bet the racing dept wants it too. IMO, the GT3Rs are really struggling due to lack of low down torque. I watched them closely out of the corners and the big bore V8s and turbo based competition just pull away. And while the Rs might make up some ground in the corners and under brakes, they just do not have enough bottom end grunt to make up all the lost ground.
And by the results of the Spa 24hr, I bet the racing dept wants it too. IMO, the GT3Rs are really struggling due to lack of low down torque. I watched them closely out of the corners and the big bore V8s and turbo based competition just pull away. And while the Rs might make up some ground in the corners and under brakes, they just do not have enough bottom end grunt to make up all the lost ground.
There is a new GT3 R that will be competing globally next year, still NA.
And - oh yeah - Porsche just won the biggest race in the world (GTE Pro and GTE Am classes) with a NA engine.
Indeed.
Looks like Motor1 is on the otherside
"Dr. Frank-Steffen Walliser, Porsche Vice President of Motorsport and GT Cars, says that the next GT3 retains a naturally aspirated engine. Rumors suggest an updated engine could have an astronomical 9,500-rpm redline.
The latest Porsche 911 RSR made the revolutionary switch to using a mid-mounted engine instead of the model's venerable layout of putting the powerplant in the rear. This change has led to a few customers to ask the company for a road-going version. GT car development boss Andreas Preuninger says there's at least a chance of this vehicle going into production"
https://www.motor1.com/news/261091/porsche-911-everything-we-know/
"Dr. Frank-Steffen Walliser, Porsche Vice President of Motorsport and GT Cars, says that the next GT3 retains a naturally aspirated engine. Rumors suggest an updated engine could have an astronomical 9,500-rpm redline.
The latest Porsche 911 RSR made the revolutionary switch to using a mid-mounted engine instead of the model's venerable layout of putting the powerplant in the rear. This change has led to a few customers to ask the company for a road-going version. GT car development boss Andreas Preuninger says there's at least a chance of this vehicle going into production"
https://www.motor1.com/news/261091/porsche-911-everything-we-know/
Like I've said before, lots of those people that are "in the know" like Dr. Walliser say things that come out as fact when what they are really saying is what they want or hope to be the case. This doesn't make them a liar, or even necessarily wrong, but it's just so hard to predict with any certainty what the next generation of GT cars will be like given the dynamics of government regulations, profitability, marketing and any applicable homologation issues.
Andreas Preuninger (road cars) and Pascal Zurlinden, who succeeded Marco Ujhasi (Motorsport), report to Frank.
08-07-2018, 03:13 AM
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maybe we have NA maybe we have force induction maybe we have E car.
but some says "the ppl in the know" says blah blah...
most of the big businesses i worked with.. the boss, the head of a dept, the chief of xxxx. really know nothing.
it's the 2nd chair or 3rd chair that do work.
the "ppl in the know" just drink and golf. i know b/c i am in the know.
but some says "the ppl in the know" says blah blah...
most of the big businesses i worked with.. the boss, the head of a dept, the chief of xxxx. really know nothing.
it's the 2nd chair or 3rd chair that do work.
the "ppl in the know" just drink and golf. i know b/c i am in the know.
08-07-2018, 03:39 AM
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**** I just realized I’m in the know...