Originally Posted by carcommander

I personally think it's unethical to tell someone else how to spend their money.

Originally Posted by roger sf

This makes zero sense to me. Do you own shares in any public companies? If so, you more than likely acquired those shares after the IPO and that means you paid a price that was in many instances above what others paid for the same shares (i.e. more than what the guys who valued the company say the company should be worth). Sure you would rather get the shares at the lower IPO price, but for a number of reasons, including your assets, network, prior purchasing history, etc... you were not invited to buy those limited shares prior to the secondary market valuing them. That hasn't and shouldn't stop you from buying the shares, it just means you pay slightly more for them and you do that because they still represent value to you (i.e. dividend equals driving enjoyment and/or appreciation/asset safety).

Also, if the ADM on the $200K car is $25K, and if Porsche prices the car at $225K, does that suddenly make it OK to buy the car? Market value is market value and people get too hung up on the fact that someone else has a Porsche relationship that they don't. Maybe that person is a 918 VIP and has done very well with that program. Well, that person took the risk on a 918 when others wouldn't - remember that Porsche had to work very hard to get those cars sold off and at $900K on a new hybrid car it was a fairly big gamble. Or, maybe the guy who buys a GT3 at MSRP has bought a number of mega depreciation Cayennes and Panameras - putting one in the win column with a GTX doesn't come close to getting them whole but provides some measure of financial reward for having been a loyal customer.

Originally Posted by needmoregarage

To each their own.
Try not to judge others just because they don’t see things as you do.
My hubby and I are a perfect example.

Hubby LOVES our RS. He loves to look at it. He loves it perfect. In the garage. He has some health issues that don’t allow him to enjoy driving all the time but even if he was perfectly healthy - he still has always loved seeing a car perfect and clean and enjoys looking at it like a piece of art.

I love driving them. I don’t care if they get dirty. I love going to the track (he used to as well but can’t anymore). I would rather drive a dirty car and spend time doing other things. Yes - I’ll wash it every so often but dirty doesn’t bother me, and miles don’t bother me.

We buy them KNOWING they’ll depreciate and knowing they’ll be driven (the GT4 WAY more than the RS so far).

I can also say that the older we get, and the more of health issues that we see with our friends - the more we realize life is short. ENJOY. There’s no promise of tomorrow or even the next minute or hour.

If you don’t believe in paying over MSRP - great - don’t. But don’t judge folks who want the car and have the resources to buy at whatever price meets their value equation. We are lucky - our dealer sells at MSRP but we’ve bought cars before at over MSRP that we couldn’t get (or thought we couldn’t get) from our dealer. Bottom line is that it’s supply and demand. Period.

Buyers pay what they feel is acceptable. Sellers charge what they can get and what the market will bear (and it’s amazing that our dealer still sells at MSRP but they are in it for very long haul relationships and I admire their strategy which serves them well in economic downtimes).

Live and let live....

Originally Posted by DerStig

Originally Posted by golfnutintib

life is hard
then you die

Originally Posted by Bob Rouleau

Just notified my new RS will be September delivery. Another white one. Too bad the track season here is over in October.
I will wait until I see the new car to sell my 2016 RS. My 2010 RS is still being tracked by Robert Licho. The Grey/Black and red was the best looking of them all.

Best,

Originally Posted by CRex

^ My .2 build's around same time as yours, and likewise my 2010 RS is here to stay for a long long time!