sampelligrino

All I can say is as a Porsche client/customer I would much rather deal with CJ and other owners/dealers like him, than deal with some of the other dealerships (whether they are run by a hands-on or hands-off owner). I've kept note of this for any future purchases. And I can say that unbiased as the only business I've done with CJ and Porsche of Fresno is that they were nice enough to take delivery of my car from Europe for a standard fee when some other dealers were so butt hurt that I didn't get my GT3 from them that they told me to take a hike. After they laughed at me a year earlier when I just asked about allocations LOL. Haven't even bought a car from CJ yet.

Every owner/dealer is going to act in their best interests, including CJ and Champion and everyone in-between. But I said it before and I'll say it again, the manner in which owners/dealers go about acting in their best interest is what I take note of. It doesn't cost anything to be kind, respectful and courteous to any potential client, whether asking about a GT3 allocation or buying a 718, and whether showing up in worn jeans or a suit. CW can try to dig for any dirt he wants, but the fact that CJ is publicly known as the owner of Porsche Fresno and still is an active RL member giving us info, etc speaks to his values, how he wants to run his business, and how he is still an enthusiast like the rest of us.

I don't get bashing or digging into what CJ is doing/up to because all we are going to do is make him think twice before posting or maybe choose not to post as much any more (I bet some of us would do this if we were in his shoes running a dealership this is real $$$$). I'm happy he's a part of RL

Maybe he's ruffling the feathers of some of the big whales behind some dealerships with how he is choosing to put customer service first and isn't afraid to speak his mind about how some of us are getting shafted by these big guys.

Nizer

Amen

All I see is a healthy debate...

MM3.9GT3

bigs

For the most part, I agree. ...For the most part.

soulsea

The irony of course is that this was a hit and run by the OP.

In retrospect the username was the giveaway.

Porsch2018

What the heck is that all about? If that is the case......what a sick puppy.

soulsea

I think 'calculating' would be more accurate.

chaosoul

Can I give some suggestions... If I may

PTS and Gulf are redundant

Cheap is inferred by 108k already

Sold is inferred by customer last name already

I think you may hit the character limit on some of these

Please don't build a cheap 108k amethyst panamera e hybrid for LF, your paint may be your only option. It will not move....

Jokes of course, good luck!

parabola19

Very interesting and informative thread. I received an allocation for a GT3 late last year from a dealer I've been working with here in South Florida. At MSRP no less. When he called early this month and told me that he thinks we should cancel it as he had another customer that it would be a better fit for I started to fume considering what I've read here the last three years. Then he told me it was because he had a GT3RS allocation for me. Still suspicious i asked him what the ADM is. He responded with nothing. That he sells at GT cars at MSRP to his best customers based on his own determination and while they're all customers who have spent a lot of money, he said that buying a GT car should be a special occasion not tainted by an ADM. I never asked him for an RS allocation or was on a list. to say i was shocked would be an understatement. Now from this thread seeing V200 as the status, and KF as the order type only affirms my impression of his integrity. Thats why he said he'd have to take the GT3 allocation because he wanted to reward another customer too. He did give me the option to keep it. But i have a problem with 911s. I can't say no. Now no CXX anything for now for the RS (love my houndstooth) but that's alright. There are some decent GMs out there guys.

Bloose993TT

Great thread. CW vs CJ is always entertaining. So what's the verdict on a fair Mark Up?

motorwerksgroup

Don't fret...your incoming GT3 MT is actually a better car...

chaosoul

PCNA and PMNA does not bypass dealers and sell cars directly to US customers.

PCNA still invoices the dealer the 918 and sell it to the dealer at invoice price. The dealer sells the 918 to the customer at whatever price they agreed on.

PMNA contacts PCNA regarding their VIPs who want GT2RS (or any other car for that matter), and PCNA allocate what they can and sends the allocation to the dealer of PMNA's and customer's choice. PCNA still invoices the dealer for the car and dealer makes a profit. PCNA may not be able to fill all the want/demands of PMNA, they'll do what they can.

Now you don't need to be curious

Whoopsy

Just adding to, those allocations comes from PCNA's pool cars. They are sort of like the bingo fuel, or maybe piggy bank. Once those special allocations are dished out, the remaining allocations will be distrusted to dealers as 'bonus' cars if there are any left.

chaosoul

Not all PMNA customers can get special allocations (GT2RS, GT3, GT3RS, GT4). PCNA tries to fill a good amount of PMNA's demands but many are not filled. I've seen quite some people denied.

chaosoul

He should've hung up and waited 3 days before calling you back to tell you its because he have an RS allocation for you