redmonkey928

How do you figure? An allocation is not bias towards manual or pdk like cxx/pts is - no cost option available to anyone who orders the car whichever transmission they pick.

OldGuy

I told MY local dealership the new 4.0 GT3 was coming out and I wanted to be first on the list. They had no clue. They would get back to me. They got back to me, they called the AutoGallery in Los Angeles about 850 miles away to get the "correct Markup for a car in the Rockies" Which was $25,000 My blood pressure never really came back down. Later another salesman laughed at the fact I wanted a GT3 at MSRP and he said "Its $40k now!!! ha ha ha" In the middle of the Rocky Mountains!!! Finally they called me back in and said they would work with me.
So this is going over months. We get to an area where the markup is not that bad at $15 but still should have been MSRP, and I went for it. So I brought my 50th anniversary 911 in and they couldnt give me a price. " We will get back to you because We want to ensure we can get you the best possible price" At that point I knew something wasn't right because I knew the trade in price of the 50th. So I called 40 dealers looking for a build, and half or more said "MSRP but you have to be local"

So then my local guys call back and offer me "your car is like a 4 year old Carrera with a powerkit how about 90k?" Only 20k less than it was worth. I make ONE call to my old salesman at Newport Beach back in Cali. In 40 minutes we do a deal on the phone for not much mark up and the price I wanted on the 50th. 40 minutes. Local dealer 9 months of basically pushing me to the point of an aneurysm. 40 minutes with a former salesman and we complete a deal Giovanni Bucci. Good guy.

Then later after a PCA meeting I see the salesman at my now local dealer and I say hello shake his hand, ask him a question about the Porsche Connect app. which he says they will have to charge me an hour of labor to connect it. Then I get home and find an email from him asking me to not talk to him anymore because he is a commissioned salesman and this is how he feeds his family. He had "worked with me for so long and got nothing out of it" after trying to relieve me of $25,000 of my hard earned money. After which he attached numerous posts I have made on Rennlist. How creepy is that? That your supposed sales guy is seeking your posts on Rennlist? They never cease to amaze me.

Lazyflatfoot

Yes it worked out. Put my name on the list a little over two years ago. Not asked to leave a deposit until I placed my order. The purchase was at MSRP. Prior to this purchase I did not have a prior relationship with this dealer.

Palting

I must say I'm surprised at the poll results, given all the negative posts I've read. Either the results are real and people with bad experiences are just posting more, or people aren't following the rules of the poll set out by Rob. Or it could also be that people with no prior Porsche dealer relationship and are just now buying a GT3 are such a small subgroup that they do not represent the typical GT3 buyer ? Anyhow, I'm surprised.

montoya

Just human nature- it takes many, many more happy customers to make up for one unhappy one. Basically those that get screwed are more likely to post about it than those that have everything work out.

bluehorseshoe

Last year I got on the list (for a $2500 deposit) of a California dealer (no prior relationship)... and was recently offered a finely spec'd GT3 at MSRP. I live in CT! Go figure.

I'm on six lists, and that was my only call. So I'd say lists are less than 17% effective.

Lapis

GT3

robmypro

I know it is still early, but it sure looks like getting on a list does pan out, even when you have no prior relationship with the dealer. You might need to get on multiple lists, and work for it, but the data shows that it does work more than half the time. That is encouraging.

Archimedes

Interesting in a general manner, but obviously this is very unscientific and suffers from numerous biases, not the least of which is that someone who didn't get a car is far less likely to even be reading this subforum and see the poll than someone who did. If I didn't get an allocation, I wouldn't be in this subforum.

The second big bias is that many people didn't even put their name on lists because the dealers indicated that they probably had less than zero chance of getting a car. I called every dealer in the Western U.S. way back when and I heard that repeatedly.

Finally, IMO, the list working out means you got an allocation and were able to spec your own car. Getting a phone call to take a build someone else backed out of is not 'the list working out' IMO. That's them dialing for dollars to move a car that you weren't going to get but for some other buyer bailing. I'm not on any list and I've received those contacts.

SKY57

No.
I put my deposit in summer 2015 at dealership A. Word from my SA: 'you got a pretty good chance.'
Then, the car was released in March 2017, my SA told me straight I can't get a car. Even if I buy a 991.2 GTS and trade-in later, there is no guarantee.

So I bought a low-mileage GT4 at dealership B as it is the 'next-best-thing' to me. Told my SA I still want a GT3. As summer ends, got the call from my SA offering me a GT3 allocation.

Demand here in Canada isn't as high as our neighbor, but supply is much much lower. With no relationship and some valuable trade-in, I don't see a chance here in Toronto area. The 'waiting-list' is just a free loan to the dealership with no contractual obligation. Valuable (Profitable) customer is always on the 'list'.

Perimeter

I answered "No" but it kinda doesn't fit. I had a relationship with my dealer; two GT cars 997.2 GT3 and GT4 then the dealership changed staff (again) and new GM/new SA dropped me from the list.

Every cloud has a silver lining,
Arizona does not charges sales tax on private party, used car purchases so I could save ~$20k if I buy a used 991.2 GT3 which is about the markup private sellers seem to like now.