Motor Trend: 2018 PORSCHE 911 GT3 FIRST TEST: BEAUTY BEHELD
02-16-2018, 01:44 PM
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0-100 PDK is quicker, so from 100 to 0 the steel outbreaks the PCCB car by over 5+ tenths? That would tell me the brake pads are more aggressive on the steel brakes.
As much as I thought the PCCB were great on my GT2..& planned to get them on my new RS.. obviously PCCB have no advantage over regular steel
As much as I thought the PCCB were great on my GT2..& planned to get them on my new RS.. obviously PCCB have no advantage over regular steel
02-16-2018, 02:09 PM
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02-16-2018, 02:10 PM
#34
Burning Brakes
0-100 PDK is quicker, so from 100 to 0 the steel outbreaks the PCCB car by over 5+ tenths? That would tell me the brake pads are more aggressive on the steel brakes.
As much as I thought the PCCB were great on my GT2..& planned to get them on my new RS.. obviously PCCB have no advantage over regular steel
As much as I thought the PCCB were great on my GT2..& planned to get them on my new RS.. obviously PCCB have no advantage over regular steel
02-16-2018, 03:06 PM
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So the manual is lugging around an extra 65lbs vs the PDK car and is only 2/10’s slower on a minute and a half track? Meh. Shut up and drive what you like.
02-16-2018, 03:31 PM
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Yes, but track conditions matter also. I remember driving my 991.1 GT3 at Streets of Willow, my fastest times were right in the morning. Air was perfect and same with the track. Later it got hot and greasy, which slowed my times down by almost a second. There are so many other variables besides the tires. Best comparison is putting the 991.1, 991.2 and the S against each other on the same day.
02-16-2018, 04:04 PM
#37
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Great car in any configuration. That is the bottom line.
02-16-2018, 06:20 PM
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So basically supercar performance, from a NA car with "only" 500HP, and 6MT.......clearly this thing needs turbos. 
From my seat, the car is a beast. Glad to see some numbers back up that opinion.
From my seat, the car is a beast. Glad to see some numbers back up that opinion.
02-16-2018, 06:59 PM
#39
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Originally Posted by Nizer
So the manual is lugging around an extra 65lbs vs the PDK car and is only 2/10’s slower on a minute and a half track? Meh. Shut up and drive what you like.
Originally Posted by Z06
0-100 PDK is quicker, so from 100 to 0 the steel outbreaks the PCCB car by over 5+ tenths? That would tell me the brake pads are more aggressive on the steel brakes.
As much as I thought the PCCB were great on my GT2..& planned to get them on my new RS.. obviously PCCB have no advantage over regular steel
As much as I thought the PCCB were great on my GT2..& planned to get them on my new RS.. obviously PCCB have no advantage over regular steel
Originally Posted by Mvez
So basically supercar performance, from a NA car with "only" 500HP, and 6MT.......clearly this thing needs turbos.
From my seat, the car is a beast. Glad to see some numbers back up that opinion.
From my seat, the car is a beast. Glad to see some numbers back up that opinion.
-more traction for acceleration
-ability to help rotate the car with the right driver at the helm
-more balanced under hard braking
-etc etc...
How else can you explain 30+ years of constant overachievement in everything from road racing to lemans to Dakar Rally...
It's like being in love with the girl with the slightly fat *** in school, but all your buds secretly know she's a hell of a lot more fun in bed than their whispy models with the fake *****.
Beauty beheld indeed...
02-16-2018, 07:01 PM
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02-16-2018, 07:20 PM
#41
Three Wheelin'
Srsly!
Pccb have an advantage in repeat braking situations, not necessarily better performing than steel in a single stop.
You have to wonder if this whole "engine in the wrong place" platitude is actually "engine in the perfect place"
-more traction for acceleration
-ability to help rotate the car with the right driver at the helm
-more balanced under hard braking
-etc etc...
How else can you explain 30+ years of constant overachievement in everything from road racing to lemans to Dakar Rally...
It's like being in love with the girl with the slightly fat *** in school, but all your buds secretly know she's a hell of a lot more fun in bed than their whispy models with the fake *****.
Beauty beheld indeed...
Pccb have an advantage in repeat braking situations, not necessarily better performing than steel in a single stop.
You have to wonder if this whole "engine in the wrong place" platitude is actually "engine in the perfect place"
-more traction for acceleration
-ability to help rotate the car with the right driver at the helm
-more balanced under hard braking
-etc etc...
How else can you explain 30+ years of constant overachievement in everything from road racing to lemans to Dakar Rally...
It's like being in love with the girl with the slightly fat *** in school, but all your buds secretly know she's a hell of a lot more fun in bed than their whispy models with the fake *****.
Beauty beheld indeed...
02-16-2018, 07:28 PM
#42
Originally Posted by Z06
Cup cars seem to have no problem with repeat braking..I thought the large rotor would help the PCCB, they must use a less aggressive pad, 5 tenths is a lot of time braking 100-0 ..as is.. lap times will be better with steel brakes. Explains the brake dust differences.
02-16-2018, 07:36 PM
#43
Drifting
agree, all the back and forth about options is just personal preference. At end of day these are phenomenal cars no matter how specced, get out and drive the snot out of them! They are almost dinosaurs at this point with NA
02-16-2018, 07:41 PM
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I don't quite think that is accurate. The time one loses to shift gears is uncompromising. Drivers may not make a difference due to lack of skill (myself included) but the pro's have proved time and time again that PDK is quicker.