Is the GT3 Right for Me?
#16
Drifting
Thread Starter
991 gt3 drives super comfortable. IMO. Cadillac comfortable to me.
Everyone is different on what's comfortable. AMG's of the past (last one i have driven was c63) was more comfortable then my sofa. Mind you my sofa is mid-century modern.
Get a ride if you can from locals on each car and see what you like best. IMO.
Theirs a reason why theirs a high turnover on GT3's (besides flipping). It's that fact that it sometimes "too much" for most, surprisingly.
Everyone is different on what's comfortable. AMG's of the past (last one i have driven was c63) was more comfortable then my sofa. Mind you my sofa is mid-century modern.
Get a ride if you can from locals on each car and see what you like best. IMO.
Theirs a reason why theirs a high turnover on GT3's (besides flipping). It's that fact that it sometimes "too much" for most, surprisingly.
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X2Board (12-01-2020)
#17
Driving in the city is not too bad, just have to scout the area beforehand for possible low areas to avoid.
Carlsen in Menlo Park has an absolutely great build in the showroom. If you have good negotiating skills you might get it down to just little over MSRP.
Call Quibelan for more info.
Carlsen in Menlo Park has an absolutely great build in the showroom. If you have good negotiating skills you might get it down to just little over MSRP.
Call Quibelan for more info.
Last edited by pimpinon; 01-04-2018 at 06:11 PM.
#18
Mercedes cars are like the way Cadillac's used to be. It's more about 'I'm a somebody in my Mercedes' That's why they keep changing the name or number on each car each year so you can be with the latest 'rarest' Mercedes. After a year or two that model is passe. Fantastic quality and workmanship for people who just want be admired or noticed.
It's different for Porsche enthusiast. It's all about road/track performance PLUS being admired or noticed in a smaller percentage.
Still you can get some great cars from Mercedes/AMG with an extended warranty of course.
It's different for Porsche enthusiast. It's all about road/track performance PLUS being admired or noticed in a smaller percentage.
Still you can get some great cars from Mercedes/AMG with an extended warranty of course.
#19
Drifting
The too low i can understand as US driveways for the most part are poorly engineered in slope and never consistent in the grading.
In SF that would be my only worry, for me to you. I also think the GT3 is the wrong car for a lot of people. More then they can chew on(having patience and planning while driving, most like to drive with giving zero fks). IMO.
Me personally i learned to do a proper angle entrance to a driveway if i must and i'm not shy of bottle necking everyone as i'm Ingres/egress from a driveway, but i usually parallel park, my preference.
#20
Carlsen and 'just a little over MSRP' in the same sentence... stop it, you're killin' me..
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tjg81296 (02-14-2020)
#22
Based on your description, buy a GT3 off the lot, with options closest to your specs. You won't regret it and if it's not to your liking, you won't have any trouble getting out of the car with minimal economic impact. Enjoy!!
#23
Get whichever car you think you will drive the most. One of the unspoken truths about GT3 resale is mileage so the more you drive the car, the less you can resale it for. Other cars are also affected by this, but doesn't seem as steep, mainly because other cars depreciate faster. The last thing you want is to think about how much your car is worth on the resale market as opposed to just driving it. Since this is your entry into this segment of vehicles, I just want to put out there some of the random thoughts that will be part of your ownership experience. If you care about value before you have bought the car, you will care twice as much once you own it, especially if you know that there is a strong resale market. These thoughts have a tendency to pop whenever you are not driving the car. One example is that the GT3 is super low and while front lip is cheap and replaceable, you will scrape in a lot of places in the city so it will be one of those stupid things lingering in your mind constantly about where you are going to drive the car and if it will scrape.
You may have none of these thoughts hopefully and truly enjoy the car and it will fit your needs 100%. But I wanted to give an alternative view to the ownership of this kind of vehicle in the Bay Area.
Good luck!
You may have none of these thoughts hopefully and truly enjoy the car and it will fit your needs 100%. But I wanted to give an alternative view to the ownership of this kind of vehicle in the Bay Area.
Good luck!
#25
You can tell if a car is fun to drive on trade in. They have a good amount of mileage on a short amounts of time. GT3's have low mileage trade in's. I believe it's because it's much more of a raw car then a smooth GT speedster as the 991TTS is and the motor problems too. The AMG GTS Mercedes rides ruff or stiff. Has a short suspension travel.
#26
Drifting
Thread Starter
Get whichever car you think you will drive the most. One of the unspoken truths about GT3 resale is mileage so the more you drive the car, the less you can resale it for. Other cars are also affected by this, but doesn't seem as steep, mainly because other cars depreciate faster. The last thing you want is to think about how much your car is worth on the resale market as opposed to just driving it. Since this is your entry into this segment of vehicles, I just want to put out there some of the random thoughts that will be part of your ownership experience. If you care about value before you have bought the car, you will care twice as much once you own it, especially if you know that there is a strong resale market. These thoughts have a tendency to pop whenever you are not driving the car. One example is that the GT3 is super low and while front lip is cheap and replaceable, you will scrape in a lot of places in the city so it will be one of those stupid things lingering in your mind constantly about where you are going to drive the car and if it will scrape.
You may have none of these thoughts hopefully and truly enjoy the car and it will fit your needs 100%. But I wanted to give an alternative view to the ownership of this kind of vehicle in the Bay Area.
Good luck!
You may have none of these thoughts hopefully and truly enjoy the car and it will fit your needs 100%. But I wanted to give an alternative view to the ownership of this kind of vehicle in the Bay Area.
Good luck!
You can tell if a car is fun to drive on trade in. They have a good amount of mileage on a short amounts of time. GT3's have low mileage trade in's. I believe it's because it's much more of a raw car then a smooth GT speedster as the 991TTS is and the motor problems too. The AMG GTS Mercedes rides ruff or stiff. Has a short suspension travel.
And the AMG GTR is quite different from the GTS. Different suspension. Much improved. It rides softer in comfort mode and due to the additional levels of damping, it can still get nice and stiff for track use.
#27
Drifting
Thread Starter
Ok, I just went to check out the GT3 at Carlsen.
Guys... as soon as I walked in and saw it there, I knew it was the one. The AMG GTR is sick. But the GT3 is something else. I knew instantly it's the one. Chalk wasn't really one of the colors I was interested in, but it looks great in person. I also know what y'all were talking about when y'all said it can be too much car for some. It is a proper sports car. The bucket seats, while gorgeous with the carbon fiber and leather, are quite... rigid. I'm a tall guy and I would prefer a little more angle to the back. So I would opt for the 4-way or 18-way seats. I need to be able to recline a bit.
Everything else about the car was damn near perfect. The ADM is high. But even with that, it's about the same price as the AMG GTR. So not outside what I'm willing to spend. However, the seats are a deal breaker. I don't want to buy a car like this and then not want to drive it because my back hurts.
So... I will hunt for an allocation I can configure. I'll follow up on the leads I found and see what the timeline looks like. Outside that, I'll see what I can find on lots.
This car is really something. Breathtaking in person.
Guys... as soon as I walked in and saw it there, I knew it was the one. The AMG GTR is sick. But the GT3 is something else. I knew instantly it's the one. Chalk wasn't really one of the colors I was interested in, but it looks great in person. I also know what y'all were talking about when y'all said it can be too much car for some. It is a proper sports car. The bucket seats, while gorgeous with the carbon fiber and leather, are quite... rigid. I'm a tall guy and I would prefer a little more angle to the back. So I would opt for the 4-way or 18-way seats. I need to be able to recline a bit.
Everything else about the car was damn near perfect. The ADM is high. But even with that, it's about the same price as the AMG GTR. So not outside what I'm willing to spend. However, the seats are a deal breaker. I don't want to buy a car like this and then not want to drive it because my back hurts.
So... I will hunt for an allocation I can configure. I'll follow up on the leads I found and see what the timeline looks like. Outside that, I'll see what I can find on lots.
This car is really something. Breathtaking in person.
#28
Originally Posted by Archimedes
Carlsen and 'just a little over MSRP' in the same sentence... stop it, you're killin' me..
They were nice enough to also refuse courtesy delivery of my car from Stuttgart without even providing a reason, thankfully CJ and Porsche of Fresno were more than happy to help me out.
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tjg81296 (02-14-2020)
#29
I am going to step out here. I own a .2 GT3 MT. I might suggest a super low mile 2 year old TT. I own one. Unless you are going to track a bunch it's a better street car IMHO. Smoother, quieter really fast and with the right tires no slouch on the track.
I am member of of the faithful and own an RS but I still think a TT is the one for general everyday street use.
I am member of of the faithful and own an RS but I still think a TT is the one for general everyday street use.