ExMB

Is that because PAG/PCNA has reduced the profit margin on GT cars and therefore dealers are hoping to make up the difference with options? Or do the final MSRP of the cars sold add to a yearly goals number that has to be achieved for future considerations, spiffs, etc?

C.J. Ichiban

None of that was why I was shocked. He just literally didn’t want any options. No buckets, no leather, no carbon, nothing at all. I think he even passed on the fuel tank. I like some options a lot on these cars and he just swiped left on them all.

STG

These are REAL ads:






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mad_max

$60k Over?

STG

Actually went up in $$$.

The West Palm Beach ADM





https://bramanporsche.com/inventory/...+White+1471859

TRAKCAR

$200K really is the new $100K

STG

Well said. Crazy huh?

Pretty soon any new GT car at MSRP under $200K will be a distant memory.

Jimmy-D

This is my theory.

PAG/PCNA must force models down the throat of their Dealers and these are low margin models that tie up a bunch of Capital and they have to cut steep discounts to move it. Dealers probably not happy. Now- they get these "GT" cars and now they want to jack the prices and make some coin. PAG/PCNA all look the other way because they figure it is a "two way street" so they care less what Dealers charge for them

STG

Bingo. Exactly. What I have been saying for years. The GT allocations are rewards to dealers in a variety of different ways. Not just how many 911 models they sell.

Archimedes

Not a theory at all, absolute fact. However, Porsche has to understand that a lot of their sportscar customers want the GT cars a lot more than the standard 911s, and should at least shift the sports car production accordingly, assuming they can do it and still stay within the fleet wide average fuel economy standards. Producing any base 911's or any 718's when you've got a GT3 customer sitting there with cash in hand is stupid.

disden

Agree. Hopefully the demand for GT cars will cause a shift in production to more hardcore sports cars, less base models. More supply for those of us that want to these amazing machines for what they were truly made for.

Perimeter

+1, you nailed it

Dealerships purchase an automated listing service and every VIN that comes in gets listed whether it is sold/ordered by customer or not. This automation saves each dealership a HUGE amount of work and they can focus on their customers. It is also desirable to have buyers calling the dealership so sales can engage them towards a result.

mooty

wow, i liek that spec at CJ's store.
stripper is baller

i see a lot of ppl often refer to how many cars for sale on ebay autotrader etc
i dont quite understand why post it.
if i wanted to buy a car, i start calling every ad and not tell anyone here about it to add to my competition. and like many said, the ads are not "real".

if u really want a car, a small ADM can land you a car very quickly.
if you are a serial buyer, not always, but a msrp car is quite possible
if one just talks and chitty chitty chat chat, i have 4 PTS GT3 for sale at $100k over ;-)