McLaren Success
03-23-2019, 09:20 PM
#3406
Hi, the color is Vega Blue. It’s metallic in nature and changes color with light. A bit like Porsche’s Shapire Blue but a bit deeper perhaps. Great color for me anyway. The seats you see in my car are standard seats. They’re lifted from the P1 and a lot like the LWBs in Porsche GT cars. I think Senna Seats are cool but not worth the cost. I had a budget too. It’s a great car. Nice to have so many choices these days.
03-23-2019, 09:32 PM
#3407
Looks great - please let us know how much you love it as time rolls on. These cars are very interesting to me, and would love a test drive.
03-23-2019, 09:58 PM
#3408
I still haven't warmed up as much as I'd like to their insanely futuristic designs (and don't want to beat the dead horse on the reputed reliability/depreciation), but I'm happy they are around and hope Mac does well. I see more Macs on the road now than I did 2-3 years ago when it was just the 12c and 650s for the accessible cars. I want more sports cars/competition in the market
03-24-2019, 02:08 AM
#3409
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Hi, the color is Vega Blue. It’s metallic in nature and changes color with light. A bit like Porsche’s Shapire Blue but a bit deeper perhaps. Great color for me anyway. The seats you see in my car are standard seats. They’re lifted from the P1 and a lot like the LWBs in Porsche GT cars. I think Senna Seats are cool but not worth the cost. I had a budget too. It’s a great car. Nice to have so many choices these days.
03-24-2019, 02:14 AM
#3410
03-24-2019, 06:50 AM
#3411
Nordschleife Master
If you have have to burn villiages across continents and then you are coming for their Keep before you can get them to do what they should have early on, no it doesn’t impress me.
Yes, I read here how this one and that one over there love their Mac but these horror stories predominate.
What makes that vid even more concerning to me is Mac should know their build reputation and reliability reputation is in the crapper which likely explain why their residual values implode (more so than any of the others, way more) yet they apparently had the hubris to allow this guy’s situation , who has a YouTube following to get to the point it did. What are others to think who don’t have such a following and are considering a Mac.? Their conduct was disgusting . Hurts the brand, their customers and dealers.. and this is the stuff people consider and remember not that there is a story here and there with one that worked right.
And if Mac is not aware of the general reputation of their cars that is equally if not more of a concern.
How they handled that situation is a turn off and more than concerning in light of their cars reputation which you would think they would be bending over backwards to their ankles to repair. I don’t car if their cars can fly or shoot flames in the air.
Yeah, not impressed.
Yes, I read here how this one and that one over there love their Mac but these horror stories predominate.
What makes that vid even more concerning to me is Mac should know their build reputation and reliability reputation is in the crapper which likely explain why their residual values implode (more so than any of the others, way more) yet they apparently had the hubris to allow this guy’s situation , who has a YouTube following to get to the point it did. What are others to think who don’t have such a following and are considering a Mac.? Their conduct was disgusting . Hurts the brand, their customers and dealers.. and this is the stuff people consider and remember not that there is a story here and there with one that worked right.
And if Mac is not aware of the general reputation of their cars that is equally if not more of a concern.
How they handled that situation is a turn off and more than concerning in light of their cars reputation which you would think they would be bending over backwards to their ankles to repair. I don’t car if their cars can fly or shoot flames in the air.
Yeah, not impressed.
03-24-2019, 07:25 AM
#3412
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If you have have to burn villiages across continents and then you are coming for their Keep before you can get them to do what they should have early on, no it doesn’t impress me.
Yes, I read here how this one and that one over there love their Mac but these horror stories predominate.
What makes that vid even more concerning to me is Mac should know their build reputation and reliability reputation is in the crapper which likely explain why their residual values implode (more so than any of the others, way more) yet they apparently had the hubris to allow this guy’s situation , who has a YouTube following to get to the point it did. What are others to think who don’t have such a following and are considering a Mac.? Their conduct was disgusting . Hurts the brand, their customers and dealers.. and this is the stuff people consider and remember not that there is a story here and there with one that worked right.
And if Mac is not aware of the general reputation of their cars that is equally if not more of a concern.
How they handled that situation is a turn off and more than concerning in light of their cars reputation which you would think they would be bending over backwards to their ankles to repair. I don’t car if their cars can fly or shoot flames in the air.
Yeah, not impressed.
He could tell you a thing or two about Porsche reliability. Twice over.
03-24-2019, 12:13 PM
#3413
Nordschleife Master
There is the “exception” and then there is the “rule”.
Running Issues with Porsches keeping them in the shop more than on the road appear to be the exception as opposed to Mac were it appears to be the rule.
For a relatively new company trying the get into the expensive market they are vying for market share and with the poor reputation for reliability and resale their cars have their approach needed to be way different to the problem that chap had. Way different. They just compounded the problem with their cars’ reputation in my view..at least in my mind they did.
Last edited by Waxer; 03-24-2019 at 12:37 PM.
03-24-2019, 12:48 PM
#3414
Sure, Murray had his issues with his 911 but with Mac it seems like every other Mac owner is a “Nick Murray” ...oh, and PAG makes a lot more cars. A lot more.
There is the “exception” and then there is the “rule”.
Running Issues with Porsches keeping them in the shop more than on the road appear to be the exception as opposed to Mac were it appears to be the rule.
For a relatively new company trying the get into the expensive market they are vying for market share and with the poor reputation for reliability and resale their cars have their approach needed to be way different to the problem that chap had. Way different. They just compounded the problem with their cars’ reputation in my view..at least in my mind they did.
37 Manufacturer Communications for 2018 PORSCHE 911 GT3
FILTER MANUFACTURER COMMUNICATIONS BY AFFECTED COMPONENTSAll (37)AIR BAGS (3)BACK OVER PREVENTION (2)ELECTRICAL SYSTEM (5)ENGINE (2)ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING (4)EQUIPMENT (7)EQUIPMENT ADAPTIVE (1)FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINE (3)POWER TRAIN (1)SERVICE BRAKES (1)SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC (1)STRUCTURE (5)SUSPENSION (1)VISIBILITY (3)WHEELS (5)
03-24-2019, 12:52 PM
#3415
^ I agree. Waxer I think God forbid if anything competes with any car you own, you will do whatever it takes to sing the praises of your personal purchase decision while questioning others' 
Every manufacturer has its share problems (look at .1 GT3 lifter/engine *issues* - not here to look at manufacturer response for an individual), Porsche is not immune. As a whole are they more reliable and depreciate less than McLaren? Probably. But same goes for Honda / Toyota etc. All about perspective and what you choose to see
Every manufacturer has its share problems (look at .1 GT3 lifter/engine *issues* - not here to look at manufacturer response for an individual), Porsche is not immune. As a whole are they more reliable and depreciate less than McLaren? Probably. But same goes for Honda / Toyota etc. All about perspective and what you choose to see
03-24-2019, 01:06 PM
#3416
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Sure, Murray had his issues with his 911 but with Mac it seems like every other Mac owner is a “Nick Murray” ...oh, and PAG makes a lot more cars. A lot more.
There is the “exception” and then there is the “rule”.
Running Issues with Porsches keeping them in the shop more than on the road appear to be the exception as opposed to Mac were it appears to be the rule.
For a relatively new company trying the get into the expensive market they are vying for market share and with the poor reputation for reliability and resale their cars have their approach needed to be way different to the problem that chap had. Way different. They just compounded the problem with their cars’ reputation in my view..at least in my mind they did.
All manufacturers have troubles including porsche. McLaren is knocking it out of the park which why their sales are exploding. Are all these buyers just stupid? I doubt it.
03-24-2019, 01:36 PM
#3417
Nordschleife Master
You are missing my point. The new Macs may be great cars. They seem to be. The reputation perceived or real as to quality and resale is poor. To allow that situation to fester doesn’t engender confidence.They need to step up to the plate quickly and resolve problems. That engenders confidence. That’s what Mac needs to do imho.
Also if you have read my posts I have been plenty critical of PAG. They are far from perfect.
If if you think Macs handling of that situation was spot on correct so be it. Not me.
Had they acted quickly and responsively and changed out the car with a smile it would have sent a much different message and made me smile and maybe start considering a Mac next time instead of make me shudder.
Also if you have read my posts I have been plenty critical of PAG. They are far from perfect.
If if you think Macs handling of that situation was spot on correct so be it. Not me.
Had they acted quickly and responsively and changed out the car with a smile it would have sent a much different message and made me smile and maybe start considering a Mac next time instead of make me shudder.
03-24-2019, 01:48 PM
#3418
You are missing my point. The new Macs may be great cars. They seem to be. The reputation perceived or real as to quality and resale is poor and resale as poor. To allow that situation to fester doesn’t engender confidence. That’s what Mac needs to do imho.
If if you think their handling of that situation was spot on correct so be it. Not me.
Had they acted quickly and responsively and changed out the car with a smile it would have sent a much different message.
If if you think their handling of that situation was spot on correct so be it. Not me.
Had they acted quickly and responsively and changed out the car with a smile it would have sent a much different message.
Ill echo others sentimebts. It’s obvious you don’t like the cars so why continue to post on this thread?
03-24-2019, 01:57 PM
#3419
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My friend just lemoned his 2018 570s for electric problems. I liked the car and would buy one IF
they offered a CPO program like Porsche.
they offered a CPO program like Porsche.
03-24-2019, 01:58 PM
#3420
Nordschleife Master
To to the contrary I love Macs. I would love to see their products sell and compete. Competition is good for the consumer. Would love to see Mac resale values improve and stories like the one in the vid fade away and become the perceived exception. Macs handling of that situation was not a step the right direction imho.