ipse dixit

I have that booklet. And mine is a MY 2015.

I thought everyone had it, no?

zedcat

This is just my interpretation- the Race Circuit book does not provide any specific warranty. Apparently the MY 2014 Circuit booklets included a reference to the warranty which would seem to imply that if one follows the booklet service requirements then warranty would apply. As noted previously the booklet dated 10/14 and provided with MY 2015 does not have this reference. I don't have a 2014 Warranty and Customer Information booklet but I would expect it has the same note about "driving events" and "may not be covered" language. I think Porsche would take the position the warranty book supersedes.

Again just my interpretation but I think specific warranty coverage for track use has always been a bit loose and in Porsche's favor. Since starting the track hobby/sport in 2012 I've always assumed I was taking some risk of warranty denial.

signes

Everybody does, if it wasn't included it isn't a conspiracy, just an oversight. My GT3 and now RS both included that booklet.

neanicu

The way I've seen it and I admit,one of the biggest selling points over the 997 GT cars was the TRACK WARRANTY. If that warranty only applies to cheap thermostats,coils and brake pucks/and not to 90K dollars engines...then it's not ok...and I see it as a stab in the back.

doubleurx

There is a difference in the "driving on a race circuit booklets". It appears only the 2014 cars have the statement about warranty coverage, it is pretty clear with the use of the word "if".

RFGGT3

My 2012 Panamera Turbo warranty booklet and the 2014 GT3 booklet are identical in content except for the cover that reads Model Year 2012 and Model Year 2014. Hard to believe PCNA/PAG not honoring track related issues with the GT3/RS at least for US models.

CALSE

Quickly researched Porsche's behaviour when the IMS issue came up as LEVD had suggested. Anyone else thinks we may be SOL with the GT3/RS motor design flaw when the warranty period ends?

Alan C.

My 2015 with an 11/14 build did not come with the track booklet. I asked for it twice but never received it.

ipse dixit

Why would anyone think otherwise?

(My apologies, but I don't mean to come off as glib.)

CALSE

Where is my kool-aid? :/

Omi

In the case of the GT-R, most do not have GPS limiters. That was a feature on Japanese market cars. All GT-Rs have "black boxes". When a fault is triggered (CEL or otherwise) a data snapshot is captured. Additionally, the black box has a recording of driving data. The combination of this data can then be used to identify issues and verify circumstances in warranty claims. For example, if the black box sees a modification to the ECU and sustained 30 psi from the turbos before a failure, coverage is likely to be denied, regardless of whether or not the customer returned it to stock before bringing it into the dealership.

Either way, ethics aside, misrepresenting the circumstances of failures is not going to be an effective solution.

Chris3963

Some good news.

Wrote a very detailed letter to my Porsche dealer today detailing my case, the fact that it was a known problem, that I was not given advance notice that I may have to pay, how much money I had spent on PCars in the last 18 months, highlight the track warranty conditions in the booklet that I had complied with, etc....and that if they did not positively resolve the situation I would marshal social media globally via Porsche forums.

I sent the email to my dealer at 1pm. My dealer forwarded it to PAG at around 2pm. Then at 5:30pm I got an email from my dealer saying that PAG had agreed to do the work under warranty.

Faith restored, if a little tarnished.

ipse dixit

Wonderful to hear!

neanicu

Good news!

I'm sure they're reading this thread. They don't want this to become more than it is.

MileHigh911

Perhaps restored---for your individual case. But are you covered NOW if you track it? I view this as a "shot over the bow" from PAG. If the next GT3/RS do not have a track warranty, then I have no interest. Many other brands are specifically given track warranty coverage on their special issue track purpose cars.

This is a design issue through and through. No question. It is not a money shift thing, where user error cause failure. They should be happy most of us are testing the engine for them.