View Poll Results: PCCB or Steel Brakes on your 991 GT3?
PCCBs, the car is for street driving only.
150
22.76%
PCCBs, and I'll track it that way too.
148
22.46%
PCCB, but buying steel rotors or system for track.
44
6.68%
Steel brakes, it's the way I roll.
317
48.10%
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PCCB or Steel on your 991 GT3?
05-10-2019, 06:33 PM
#301
Rennlist Member
Originally Posted by daveo4porsche
thanks @signes I appreciate the clarifications
I've attempted to buy the tool and have never been able to complete a purchase- do you know of any cases where the tool has been successfully purchased by an individual or a small/medium mechanic's shop? We have been trying for years and never able to be successful.
I've attempted to buy the tool and have never been able to complete a purchase- do you know of any cases where the tool has been successfully purchased by an individual or a small/medium mechanic's shop? We have been trying for years and never able to be successful.
Originally Posted by IPSA
Correct. Heat kills the Porsche version very quickly thus if you are overheating iron ,PCCB will literally be toast in short order.
05-10-2019, 06:58 PM
#302
Rennlist Member
05-10-2019, 07:01 PM
#303
Rennlist Member
5 Dealers I've contacted refused to sell me one.
the manufacturer will not return a phone call or eMail
A local shop has been trying for years so they can add PCCB support to their list of services, but have been unable to purchase the sensor from a dealer or manufacturer or even Porsche Motorsports…they went so far as to place an order with PMS, pay PMS, receive a shipping confirmation for the item, to have it stopped in shipping from Porsche Germany.
as far as I know at this time ONLY Porsche dealers can obtain the measurement device, I welcome concrete confirmation and have several people with money waiting if we can find a source for this valuable mechanic's tool.
the manufacturer will not return a phone call or eMail
A local shop has been trying for years so they can add PCCB support to their list of services, but have been unable to purchase the sensor from a dealer or manufacturer or even Porsche Motorsports…they went so far as to place an order with PMS, pay PMS, receive a shipping confirmation for the item, to have it stopped in shipping from Porsche Germany.
as far as I know at this time ONLY Porsche dealers can obtain the measurement device, I welcome concrete confirmation and have several people with money waiting if we can find a source for this valuable mechanic's tool.
05-10-2019, 09:09 PM
#304
RL Community Team
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
05-26-2019, 05:31 PM
#305
What is the best choice for the brake pads to be used with PCCBs for track use?
I have heard that a good choice is Pagid RSC1
Any comments / advice would be much appreciated.
I have heard that a good choice is Pagid RSC1
Any comments / advice would be much appreciated.
05-26-2019, 05:56 PM
#306
Race Director
All that is available is stock and Pagid RSC1. I am sticking with stock for the small amount of track days I do. I'd rather wear through softer pads than the expensive PCCB rotor.
05-26-2019, 06:44 PM
#307
I thought of changing to NON-OEM pads only bacause I thought that RSC1 are more heat-resistand and thus will not overheat the PCCB rotors whereas OEM pads will. If this is not the case, then I am definitely sticking to OEM pads.
Last edited by kart driver; 05-26-2019 at 07:03 PM.
05-27-2019, 06:59 PM
#308
Any ideas as per what is causing less damage to the PCCB rotors when you track the car? Stock pads or Pagid RSC1?
06-06-2019, 01:14 PM
#309
That would be RB CCB Conversion Rotor Kit (380/380=OE) for 991 GT3 (w/Iron) (P/N 2C77 & 2C56) here:
https://www.racingbrake.com/RB-CCB-R...por-crk-07.htm
The rear rotors are now made to same as stock size (380x30) for a direct swap to iron rotors w/o any modification
https://www.racingbrake.com/RB-CCB-R...por-crk-07.htm
The rear rotors are now made to same as stock size (380x30) for a direct swap to iron rotors w/o any modification
I have Irons, want CCBs.
Looks like POR CRK 7
https://www.racingbrake.com/RB-CCB-C...por-crk-07.htm
I see you offer Sintered brake pads for street use.
What are my OEM steel "red brake caliper" pads?
Last edited by Agent_Orange; 06-24-2019 at 05:09 AM.
06-07-2019, 03:51 PM
#310
Former Vendor
Installed - March 2016
394mm/390 CCM Brakes!
3 sets brake pad consumed so far (2 ZR1 Brembo OE, 1 RB sintered), plus a recent caliper rebuild.RB CCM Brake Kit caliper rebuild
And Now!
Back at the track!
The CCB rotors have lasted 3 seasons w/o a sign of needing replacement. He replaced pad to sintered pad which shall last 2-3 times longer than ZR1 OE pad, and the rotors are stronger now than before and protected from oxidation.Depending on how you track your car, the pad wear may vary and that's all you have to watch out while a rigid caliper (like RB with open top for easy pad inspection/change) can help to improve the braking efficiency and reduce the pad taper wear.
Other than the long term cost saving, the never "warp" nor "crack" CCB set up that can consistently deliver confidence inspiring performance at any braking condition is not something that an iron set up can compare.
Iron or CCB? - You decide.
Last edited by RacingBrake; 06-07-2019 at 05:11 PM.
06-25-2019, 01:21 PM
#312
Former Vendor
PM sent,
I have Irons, want CCBs.
Looks like POR CRK 7
https://www.racingbrake.com/RB-CCB-C...por-crk-07.htm
I see you offer Sintered brake pads for street use.
What are my OEM steel "red brake caliper" pads?
I have Irons, want CCBs.
Looks like POR CRK 7
https://www.racingbrake.com/RB-CCB-C...por-crk-07.htm
I see you offer Sintered brake pads for street use.
What are my OEM steel "red brake caliper" pads?
Relatively few Porsche owners can seem to realize RB-CCB + sintered pad combo is the ultimate braking set up for motorsports & track enthusiasts comparing to other more track intensive communities that we serve.
06-25-2019, 01:33 PM
#313
Race Director
Originally Posted by RacingBrake
Standard and pccb brake pad share the same brake pad shape except pccb has deeper bottom, although they can be made available or modified from existing ZR1/Z28 pads but we need more interest from 911 owners to make it happen.
Relatively few Porsche owners can seem to realize RB-CCB + sintered pad combo is the ultimate braking set up for motorsports & track enthusiasts comparing to other more track intensive communities that we serve.
Relatively few Porsche owners can seem to realize RB-CCB + sintered pad combo is the ultimate braking set up for motorsports & track enthusiasts comparing to other more track intensive communities that we serve.
06-25-2019, 01:50 PM
#314
Standard and pccb brake pad share the same brake pad shape except pccb has deeper bottom, although they can be made available or modified from existing ZR1/Z28 pads but we need more interest from 911 owners to make it happen.
Relatively few Porsche owners can seem to realize RB-CCB + sintered pad combo is the ultimate braking set up for motorsports & track enthusiasts comparing to other more track intensive communities that we serve.
Relatively few Porsche owners can seem to realize RB-CCB + sintered pad combo is the ultimate braking set up for motorsports & track enthusiasts comparing to other more track intensive communities that we serve.
Keep in mind the RB ad does say
"Features and benefits:
- Retains the use of OE calipers & Pads."
