Since the manual is dead
03-16-2013, 11:17 PM
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LOL. Something like that. Actually I ran in the group with the 991S PDK, 997TTS PDK, Gallado 670? and GTR. They opened a lead of 500m on a 12km tight twisty stage. I ran as hard as I dared really pushing the car hard. We lost a 2009 Jag XKR on that stage, cooked a corner rolled three times in a field! Got out with back soaked in sweat, literally shaking from adrenaline. Went to the door of the GTR and congratulate the driver on a great drive and he was blissfully unaware how challenging the stage had been. Keeping within visual distance of a 500 bhp e clutch 4WD GTR had meant driving at the edge for me in y little 300 bhp 911, for him it as point squirt brake, point squirt brake. That said they seem to love it having down the event 8 times now...they drive it home afterwards sharing the driving (husband and wife) then use it for groceries the next day!
Heres a few pictures from last Oct to give you an idea...
Heres a few pictures from last Oct to give you an idea...
03-17-2013, 12:05 AM
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Thanks Mike. Tonnes more where they came from. Just having Heigo in Germany make me a bolt in half cage for the 993. Its a sipmle affair to take in and out and the rear seats can stay with the rear belts or be removed to save some weight. Probably do the latter. Once the GT3 arrives the 993 doesn't quite have to be the 100% all rounder it has been for the last 13 years. It will probably see a bot more track and fast Targa style work...
03-20-2013, 06:12 AM
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I agree with those of you here who are mourning the MT. Unfortunately even the the old MT stalwart, Porsche, will eventually only offer the DCT in all of their new vehicles.
In 25 years, the MT will be viewed by then new drivers the same way we now view old style typewriters...
03-20-2013, 06:36 PM
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I love driving the MT. No ifs ands or buts. However, if winning a race on a track were my goal, I would want a PDK. It shifts faster than I can with no loss of power, and you can shift while accelerating hard through a long sweeper (one of the bigger advantages in my mind).
I realize it takes some of the skill out of driving, but paddles and an automatic clutch are better if lap times are important.
It just depends on what your goals are.
I realize it takes some of the skill out of driving, but paddles and an automatic clutch are better if lap times are important.
It just depends on what your goals are.
03-21-2013, 12:23 AM
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Consumables and maintenance on a cup car are impressive. More than I would want to spend if I wasn't actually competing in a series. I've also been thinking about next steps and it's tough to argue against a dedicated E92 DCT race car. For around $100k it's a good ratio of price/performance and you'll always find a buyer when you're ready to move on.
03-21-2013, 01:15 AM
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Consumables and maintenance on a cup car are impressive. More than I would want to spend if I wasn't actually competing in a series. I've also been thinking about next steps and it's tough to argue against a dedicated E92 DCT race car. For around $100k it's a good ratio of price/performance and you'll always find a buyer when you're ready to move on.
( +/- 4.6lbs/hp)
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03-21-2013, 01:23 PM
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03-21-2013, 03:41 PM
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And many like me are willing to step up for the new metal. . . . it brings up the natural question:
Scud
or
991 GT3
I've stayed away from the scud b/c of the flappy paddles, but once going down the slippery slope of the new 991 GT3, it seems a natural question. Of course the comparison is conjecture since nobody who can chime in to any of these threads has actually driven the new GT3.
I'm not as concerned with laptimes, as both cars offer performance I will not tap into, it's more about the overall ownership experience. 4-6 track weekends/year, and weekend/nice weather street driving.
I've had two 997's. The loaded up 997S launch car and the 997.1 GT3. Both fantastic metal (and in some ways I preferred the 997S on the street), but since I've been there, I'm much more interested in the 991. Mainly for its improved chassis.
Scud
or
991 GT3
I've stayed away from the scud b/c of the flappy paddles, but once going down the slippery slope of the new 991 GT3, it seems a natural question. Of course the comparison is conjecture since nobody who can chime in to any of these threads has actually driven the new GT3.
I'm not as concerned with laptimes, as both cars offer performance I will not tap into, it's more about the overall ownership experience. 4-6 track weekends/year, and weekend/nice weather street driving.
I've had two 997's. The loaded up 997S launch car and the 997.1 GT3. Both fantastic metal (and in some ways I preferred the 997S on the street), but since I've been there, I'm much more interested in the 991. Mainly for its improved chassis.
All comes down to taking a used car for the price of a new car.
the paddle shift system is totally different animal in the Scuderia.