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Old 03-04-2013, 03:43 PM
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Guy thank you for this.
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Originally Posted by Mike in CA
Vantage V8 is pretty but not even in the same county as the GT3 in any performance catagory you can name. I don't see anybody cross-shopping these two cars; the Vantage is hardly the GT3's main competitor, IMO. Unless, of course, you're just stirring the pot........
No, really. I wish.
TRG is racing Astons, that have about as much in common with the street Astons as the 991 has with CUP cars.
They even had a N24 version that was based on the Nurburgring racecar.

http://bduggleby.wordpress.com/2013/01/21/289/
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engine = 475 horsepower, 55 pounds lighter, 3 inches forward

holy moly
Old 03-04-2013, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 911SLOW
Guy thank you for this.
No problem

4 wheel steer is a big surprise!

Power and acceleration is great.

Weight is not good though, since 991 should be less than 997 in general, this looks like a heavy car. 60kg heavier than an RS3.8!
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Originally Posted by GuyR
A legend re-born - new Porsche 911 GT3 unveiled in Geneva

• Purpose-built normally-aspirated 3.8-litre flat six engine develops 475 hp, rev limit 9,000rpm
• Seven-speed PDK double-clutch transmission with unique steering wheel paddle-shift
• Innovative active rear-wheel steering increases cornering agility and enhances high speed stability
• Acceleration from 0-62 mph in 3.5 seconds; top speed 196 mph
• Sub-7 min 30 secs lap time around Nürburgring-Nordschleife
• Available to order 4 March, priced from £100,540 – first UK RHD deliveries November 2013
Thanks!

Wow. The arguments over this "Nissan GTR" of 911 GT3's will rage on until long after the thing arrives. Rear steer and PTV. What the hell is that going to mean for the RS? And the Cup has none of this? Better flappy paddles and no mention of a third pedal? Well, an even faster PDK and 9000 rpm ... whatever it's shortcomings, that's going to be a lot of <expletive deleted> fun on the track!
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Interview with Andreas Preuninger - MUST WATCH.



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Originally Posted by GuyR
No problem

4 wheel steer is a big surprise!

Power and acceleration is great.

Weight is not good though, since 991 should be less than 997 in general, this looks like a heavy car. 60kg heavier than an RS3.8!

Parking assistance through rear wheel steering for tight spaces is a big plus in my book.
Have you seen my bloody garage?

Let's see if it has a couple of off buttons. Here's hoping..

Agreed on the weight but I'm not surprised.

Generally speaking it will be fast but we knew that already.
We are talking faster than the gap between a 996 and 997.2 fast IMO.
Even for the average Joe.

Will it feel GT3 good remains to be seen.
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Did I read something right...

Two modes are available to the driver: manual shifting or the adaptive shift programme. Manual shifting is achieved using two paddles on the steering wheel, the left-hand for upshifts and the right-hand for downshifts. Shorter shifting travel and optimised actuating force result in even faster gearshifts with concise feedback, similar to the operating characteristics of the 911 GT3 Cup race car. Alternatively, the driver can also shift using the selector lever, with a shift pattern based on that used in professional motor sports: shifting up is done by pulling the lever back, shifting down by pushing it forward.
LEFT for upshifts????

Car seems... impressive I suppose. But very busy.

Am undecided... I'm sure its extremely fast.
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Reading about PTV and rear wheel steering and "2 hands in for clutch in" for freeing the gearbox up agains understeer or spins gives me a headache.
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Originally Posted by sunnyr
Interview with Andreas Preuninger
"donut mode" neutral in PDK
"half a car length" per shift

Rocker arm valve gear. This is not a Carrera engine!
Shorter gears instead of higher top speed. Amen to that!

Clearly Mr Preuninger, though assuring us he's not "marketing" does a good job of learning his lines and delivering his pitch.

(That's not to say I'm not "sold" on the sales pitch ... 9000 rpm, 475 hp, 100ms upshift ... hard to argue with that ...)
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Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
Reading about PTV and rear wheel steering and "2 hands in for clutch in" for freeing the gearbox up agains understeer or spins gives me a headache.
I think Preuninger explains the box better than the release copy (which I, too, find needlessly convoluted.)

As for electric steering. Hmmm … here's hoping it's as "exacting" as promised in the GT3. But what is "steering" if the rear of the car has literally a mind of its own?
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AP "the car goes like hell"
Can they speak like that on camera? Shocking

Will the engine find its way in the race cars?

"I guess so! :insert_smiley:

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Originally Posted by BBMGT3
Did I read something right...



LEFT for upshifts????

Car seems... impressive I suppose. But very busy.

Am undecided... I'm sure its extremely fast.
Looking at the car, it's left = down on the wheel, forward = down on the lever (which is the opposite of the 991 & 997 Carrera lever and is now the same as a sequential shifter "logic.")

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Originally Posted by GuyR
Weight is not good though, since 991 should be less than 997 in general, this looks like a heavy car. 60kg heavier than an RS3.8!
Thanks Guy, for the post; that was great! Curb weight is confusing to me. DIN standards include all fluids plus a full tank of fuel, but sometimes dry weights are quoted so it's hard to make a comparison. Also, many Euro manufacturers quote to the new ECE standard which includes a 75KG driver. Given the 991 GT3 weight savings in the engine, chassis, suspension, etc. quoted in the press release I just wonder if the RS3.8 weight you mention included a full tank and was an apples to apples comparison. 475HP should help make up the diff in any event!

Anyway, really enjoyed getting all of that info. Thanks again.
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AP "promises" the steering feedback is on 996/997 levels.

Big promise and we are going to hold him on it.


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