USNA12

Thank you for simplifying sir, for I am just a dumb Marine who apparently whines and cries.

If you used pictures, I would have understood your condescending tone much better

fast1

Just anecdotal, but I see a similar dynamic in my area. I'm an ole guy and a 911 owner for over four decades. As soon as I saw my first 911 when I was a teenager, I aspired to own one. So over a few years I saved up the $7500 for a 911E, and I couldn't have been happier. I use to get waves and blinking headlights from many cars, i.e., they recognized and admired Porsches. I no longer see that enthusiasm by the general public. I have three sons, and two of the three could easily afford a GT3, but have zero interest in sports cars. Add to this the political climate in the US which is to some extent anti ICE, and you have a rapidly declining sports car market place. Although Porsche dealers will sell every GT3 they have on their lots, I doubt that they will get the hefty ADM that they expect.

RossP

Having the money and wanting to get the best deal possible arent mutually exclusive.

ranger22

Clearly there are a lot of cars available for sale. It seems to me that GT3RS production and delivery was concentrated over the winter months instead of a steady flow over a year or two like we've seen in the past. I assume many folks traded up to the GT3RS or GT2RS during these months when typical sports car sales are slow. Given a little time, warmer temps, and a stop on the incoming flow of new GT's, I think you'll find these cars to become scarce again before the 992's start showing up. But what do I know......

iphilips

"Have the money now" means you can afford it and it's the deal you want, at the time. If you want a better deal you may need to wait. This is why dealers create a fake sense of urgency.

iphilips

If you believe you are dumb then who am I to argue.

sgroer

FWIW, this is my dealership and the highest over MSRP for any of the GT3's when you include the $3k CPO cost is < $5000. 5 or 6 cars at a dealer who sells well over 1000 cars a year is really not that many. They, like a select few others, just have a ton of volume.

sampelligrino

"killed on exit" lol never own an Italian exotic and maybe Mac too

agreed. Thinking of prices in the future, the economy dipping, over production of GT stuff, anti ICE climate, depreciation/value, the trading in 991.2 for 992 down the road. Why worry about that. Tomorrow never guaranteed just make the most of today! Orthogonal to the OPs point that *IMO* something bottlenecked GT product from getting into the hands of enthusiasts who wanted to spec and drive the cars, and I believe its the dealers.... 5k over, wish these cars went at MSRP to whoever wanted one to drive and enjoy, and therefore could spec it to their own individual taste

djcxxx

Cars are depreciating "assets". What appears to be appreciation is less than average loss when compared to actual investment grade assets. GT cars are falling stones compared to the plummeting rocks of other cars. A few flippers made out because they were in the right place at the right time w/ the 911R. Dealers may get a few extra bucks w/ ADM on GT cars but we don't see the bath they may take on other inventory just to keep Porsche happy. If you are an enthusiast the experience of ownership is the focus not the economics.

abiazis

Well said........this local dealer does sell lots of cars as mentioned, and has access to more RS cars for upgrades relatively speaking which MAY lead to the same base GT cars selling multiple times in a short period of time at one dealer, but still surprising as Champion in Florida the number one Porsche dealer does not have as many GT cars for sale..........better weather maybe)

jp884

These prices will continue to drop. I was offered a 991.2 RS at list but passed in order to be 1st on the list for the 992 RS, so my my focus is already on the next gen. Another local dealer where I bought my 2016 RS has a 2019 guards red with Weissach package asking $10k over list and it is still sitting. Speaking with a few PCA members at the dealership before a drive, it seemed in general they were tired of ADM's or they were already focusing on the 992. Seems like the craze is beginning to cool off a bit.

FastLaneTurbo

Porsche USA Preowned Website has 372 991 GT3 / GT3RS For Sale with Porsche Dealer Asking Prices starting at $ 110,000
https://nationalpreownedporsche.com/...e=2020&page=28

Add 991 GT3's / GT3RS's being sold Privately and by Non-Porsche Dealers, Used Car Dealers and Auctions mean at least 500 991 GT3's are looking for Buyers.

Same Website has 43 991 GT2RS's in present Porsche Dealer Inventory, most with VERY low mileage.

Porsche USA Preowned Website also has 233 991 Turbos For Sale with Porsche Dealer Asking Prices starting at $104,000

Archimedes

I'm sorry, wut?

So if I have the money to but a 918 Spyder, which I do, that means it's the deal I want? Your English confuses me.

The idea that anyone who isn't buying at these prices simply can't afford it is tard logic.

Akunob

Agreed. Just because we have the financial means to afford and pay for a car does NOT mean that we are willing to OVERPAY for the car.

fast1

Actually they go hand in hand. Let's not forget the old adage: a fool and his money are soon parted. I doubt that there are many fools on this forum.