GT car / Salesman - Shiraaz Sookralli - Champion Porsche's VP of Marketing
09-15-2018, 08:44 PM
#961
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Hope the assailant gets away with this and remains low key in a country which doesn't extradite. That'll teach a lot of these goofy victims a lesson along with these flippers.. Really hope the flippers take a fat L on this one.. For the genuine buyers... Hope you win it back in another way.
Yeah my opinion conflicts with everyone.. Boo hoo. Go Shiraaz and wife!
Yeah my opinion conflicts with everyone.. Boo hoo. Go Shiraaz and wife!
09-15-2018, 08:48 PM
#963
Burning Brakes
If the deposit was greater than the agreed upon ADM, then giving them a car at MSRP makes the client whole, doesn't it? The client gets a car for what they agreed to pay (if not less) and it is Champion that had the ADM stolen from them.
If the deposit was less than the agreed upon ADM, then yes, asking them to pony up more money doesn't make them whole.
I suspect that in many cases, documenting the agreed upon ADM may be challenging but I have no experience in the ADM world.
If the deposit was less than the agreed upon ADM, then yes, asking them to pony up more money doesn't make them whole.
I suspect that in many cases, documenting the agreed upon ADM may be challenging but I have no experience in the ADM world.
Is getting one's money back, at this time, thereby "made whole"? Especially when that loss is from fraud or willful negligence, then compounded by absent comms until sufficient "outrage" is reached....
I am not so sure.
I hope that Champion will be prompt with their reimbursement, and I hope, with no strings. It's a small step in the right direction, but still a deep hole to dig out of.
I wonder how complicit PCNA is in all this....
09-15-2018, 08:53 PM
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Sorry to be "that" guy, but I saw this the other day when it dropped on FB...Haven't had much time to be on here or other forums. Not going through 49 pages here.
Quickly, if you will, What's the status of the dealer and deposits? Are they going to make it right or is Porsche themselves going to do something?
Quickly, if you will, What's the status of the dealer and deposits? Are they going to make it right or is Porsche themselves going to do something?
09-15-2018, 09:05 PM
#965
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Originally Posted by Big Swole
Sorry to be "that" guy, but I saw this the other day when it dropped on FB...Haven't had much time to be on here or other forums. Not going through 49 pages here.
Quickly, if you will, What's the status of the dealer and deposits? Are they going to make it right or is Porsche themselves going to do something?
Quickly, if you will, What's the status of the dealer and deposits? Are they going to make it right or is Porsche themselves going to do something?
They released a memo. All we know. Only public communication from them or PCNA.
09-15-2018, 09:06 PM
#966
Race Car
You mean a water sandwich.
09-15-2018, 09:09 PM
#967
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Originally Posted by chillindrdude
I'm in the camp that Champion is not among the victims in this scam.
Is getting one's money back, at this time, thereby "made whole"? Especially when that loss is from fraud or willful negligence, then compounded by absent comms until sufficient "outrage" is reached....
I am not so sure.
I hope that Champion will be prompt with their reimbursement, and I hope, with no strings. It's a small step in the right direction, but still a deep hole to dig out of.
I wonder how complicit PCNA is in all this....
Is getting one's money back, at this time, thereby "made whole"? Especially when that loss is from fraud or willful negligence, then compounded by absent comms until sufficient "outrage" is reached....
I am not so sure.
I hope that Champion will be prompt with their reimbursement, and I hope, with no strings. It's a small step in the right direction, but still a deep hole to dig out of.
I wonder how complicit PCNA is in all this....
Well written .... Champion is FAR from innocent here.
Shiraaz should just type up an apology letter as well. Just have him take his VP of Marketing and GT car sales position back at Champion and let the ADM's and fraud recycle itself until the next time. Right?
09-15-2018, 09:25 PM
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Well the memo looks to say they intend to make sure each customer is taken care of in the amount they paid. That's a good sign I'd think.
Or did I read that wrong....
Or did I read that wrong....
09-15-2018, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Swole
Well the memo looks to say they intend to make sure each customer is taken care of in the amount they paid. That's a good sign I'd think.
Or did I read that wrong....
Or did I read that wrong....
I intend to be the next man on the moon this year too. Until it happens ..........
Actions speak louder than fluffy words. We will see.
Shiraaz Sookralli
Champion Porsche Pompano Beach
09-15-2018, 09:37 PM
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I feel ya brother. I'm a skeptic. I get paid to be in fact. Dealing with criminals just like him.
But, I'd like to see the dealer / porsche make it right.
09-15-2018, 09:42 PM
#971
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I would like to comment on dr chill’s statement made earlier. I was contacted by the dealer earlier and was able to work something out. Does that make me whole again ? Not sure if I am able to comment on this Quite yet but let’s just say I am glad I don’t have to go through the legal troubles. Thanks for all the RL for helpful advice. Lesson learned on my end, will update the group to see if promises are kept.
09-15-2018, 09:46 PM
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I would like to comment on dr chill’s statement made earlier. I was contacted by the dealer earlier and was able to work something out. Does that make me whole again ? Not sure if I am able to comment on this Quite yet but let’s just say I am glad I don’t have to go through the legal troubles. Thanks for all the RL for helpful advice. Lesson learned on my end, will update the group to see if promises are kept.
09-15-2018, 09:47 PM
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Good news so far.
09-15-2018, 09:47 PM
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Thanks for the update
I would like to comment on dr chill’s statement made earlier. I was contacted by the dealer earlier and was able to work something out. Does that make me whole again ? Not sure if I am able to comment on this Quite yet but let’s just say I am glad I don’t have to go through the legal troubles. Thanks for all the RL for helpful advice. Lesson learned on my end, will update the group to see if promises are kept.
I would like to comment on dr chill’s statement made earlier. I was contacted by the dealer earlier and was able to work something out. Does that make me whole again ? Not sure if I am able to comment on this Quite yet but let’s just say I am glad I don’t have to go through the legal troubles. Thanks for all the RL for helpful advice. Lesson learned on my end, will update the group to see if promises are kept.
09-15-2018, 09:59 PM
#975
It's very difficult to understand why they did not dump that bozo after the bad checks and the reveal of the fictitious name in the 911R litigation.