Manual Vs. PDK in the GT3 .2
#108
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I don't disagree with that at all.
But when someone ask "Is it a manual or automatic?" if you say "manual" then you're delusional. It's not a manual transmission. A manual has a gear selector and a clutch pedal.
If it gives you the sad feels to say automatic then by all means say it's a PDK or a DCT or otherwise distinguish it from being a slushbox but it's NOT a manual.
But when someone ask "Is it a manual or automatic?" if you say "manual" then you're delusional. It's not a manual transmission. A manual has a gear selector and a clutch pedal.
If it gives you the sad feels to say automatic then by all means say it's a PDK or a DCT or otherwise distinguish it from being a slushbox but it's NOT a manual.
#109
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^ not entirely correct.
If the PDK is in the manual position, which is the only position I use, you will bury the tach if you don’t give yank it.
And it is very difficult for me to get really good 997RS heel/toe shifts in city driving...just not enough rpms.
That said, adding manual .2 with rev match.
I hope i don’t regret...
If the PDK is in the manual position, which is the only position I use, you will bury the tach if you don’t give yank it.
And it is very difficult for me to get really good 997RS heel/toe shifts in city driving...just not enough rpms.
That said, adding manual .2 with rev match.
I hope i don’t regret...
#111
Three Wheelin'
Originally Posted by Wild Weasel
I don't disagree with that at all.
But when someone ask "Is it a manual or automatic?" if you say "manual" then you're delusional. It's not a manual transmission. A manual has a gear selector and a clutch pedal.
If it gives you the sad feels to say automatic then by all means say it's a PDK or a DCT or otherwise distinguish it from being a slushbox but it's NOT a manual.
But when someone ask "Is it a manual or automatic?" if you say "manual" then you're delusional. It's not a manual transmission. A manual has a gear selector and a clutch pedal.
If it gives you the sad feels to say automatic then by all means say it's a PDK or a DCT or otherwise distinguish it from being a slushbox but it's NOT a manual.
#112
Three Wheelin'
Been there, done that. commuted DD with manual GT3 and RS (never saw anything else P-car GT related commuting) in NYC for 8 years. Never had a problem and all cars were (are, will be manual) dumped the 1.1 after 4 months of paddles...what a bore fest.
my incoming allocation will be manual
get the car you want the way you want and drive the sh*t out of it
my incoming allocation will be manual
get the car you want the way you want and drive the sh*t out of it
#113
Three Wheelin'
It's all semantics. For me with a manual the driver decides when the shifts happens. With an auto the computer decides when the shifts happen. So imo PDK is both depending on selected mode.
For other people manual equates to a third pedal.
Who cares really. Everyone should get what they want and not let others influence them. I'm me, I'm not Jethro, I'm not Walter, I want those aggeressive cup car like shifts.
For other people manual equates to a third pedal.
Who cares really. Everyone should get what they want and not let others influence them. I'm me, I'm not Jethro, I'm not Walter, I want those aggeressive cup car like shifts.
#114
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#116
I've done track sessions without it. I'm getting better.
When I just want to go fast though... I go to the auto-blip and just have at it. It shows me what I'm aspiring to.
I very rarely use it on the street. Mostly just when I want to make a lot of obnoxious noises.
I do like those noises...
#117
I've been driving MT all my life. I'm just fed up with it, time to take it to the next level. This is my second PDK now, and I'm not looking back. Imo MT has no business anymore in a modern sportscar where performance is the focal point. Especially with a GT3 where the engine is clearly designed to be mated with a PDK to get the best out of it. Ordering it in MT will only numb down the experience. YMMV ofcourse, and every respect to the people that order the MT for whatever reason.
#118
Can't believe no-one has yet mentioned the real reasons PDK wins out. Left foot braking and steering feel.
Left foot braking is far more rewarding than heel and toe, which is a nice, quaint, nostalgic thing. Pushing a clutch just gets boring, especially in traffic.
Left foot braking and keeping two hands at 2.45 on the wheel allows you to maximize the feel of a brilliant car through all four limbs always being in contact with a key control surface.
When you fully feel that car dance underneath you on the edge of adhesion it is a magnificent feeling - why would you want to take a hand off the wheel or simply use your left leg to push a simple pedal. Would not swap it for MT on a seriously capable car like ? Porsche GT. I have manual Imprezas for when I want to heel and toe, but that's not really why I keep them either.
Left foot braking is far more rewarding than heel and toe, which is a nice, quaint, nostalgic thing. Pushing a clutch just gets boring, especially in traffic.
Left foot braking and keeping two hands at 2.45 on the wheel allows you to maximize the feel of a brilliant car through all four limbs always being in contact with a key control surface.
When you fully feel that car dance underneath you on the edge of adhesion it is a magnificent feeling - why would you want to take a hand off the wheel or simply use your left leg to push a simple pedal. Would not swap it for MT on a seriously capable car like ? Porsche GT. I have manual Imprezas for when I want to heel and toe, but that's not really why I keep them either.
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#119
Racer
#120
There is still the fact that one might choose one transmission over the other simply because they enjoy how it makes them feel driving the car. Nothing more. No need to overthink things or conclude on someone else's motivations, when you really have no idea what they might be.