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Old 11-14-2017, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 1Gunner
Salut Pierre.
Lots in common... my GT3 Touring is a scheduled as a late Dec build, early March delivery. Wasn't really shopping GT3 until Touring was announced in Sept and my dealer offered an allocation.

For me, no wing plus manual only was a winning combo!!

Glad to hear your Radical experience is progressing well. Robert runs a great program, plus now your trailer graphics suits the contents!

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It's my understanding that the PDK cars get a different "better" e-diff.
Old 11-14-2017, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by rsierra
It's my understanding that the PDK cars get a different "better" e-diff.

source or can anyone confirm?
Old 11-14-2017, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Icutyou
source or can anyone confirm?
One source is this Car and Driver article:
https://www.caranddriver.com/porsche/911-gt3-gt3-rs

"Porsche, with a straight face, offers the stick as a no-cost option. The seven-speed PDK dual-clutch automatic, which shares the manual’s ratios in its first four gears, is standard. Both transaxles incorporate limited-slip differentials, which is electronically controlled with the PDK."
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Originally Posted by mooty
i like PDK a lot
add manual for variety
if only one i like pdk.
YMMV
This made me go back to posts and observe that the vast majority of people who want a manual and are ordering a manual have ANOTHER car/sports car that is a PDK/Automatic.

I would bet that if the GT3 was the ONLY car the buyer could own, the statistics would be even more heavily weighted to the PDK option.
Old 11-14-2017, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mass27
This made me go back to posts and observe that the vast majority of people who want a manual and are ordering a manual have ANOTHER car/sports car that is a PDK/Automatic.

I would bet that if the GT3 was the ONLY car the buyer could own, the statistics would be even more heavily weighted to the PDK option.
This is a good point. If I didn't have a Ferrari 488GTB coming to the stable, the choice of a manual might have been more involved. Plus the fact that I already have a .1 GT3 so the manual would have been a different take on a similar car.
Old 11-14-2017, 03:26 PM
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I may be on my own here, but I don't think I'd buy a sports car at all without a manual.

For me these things are for pure fun and no other purpose.

In a few short years I may be limited to the used market.
Old 11-14-2017, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mass27
This made me go back to posts and observe that the vast majority of people who want a manual and are ordering a manual have ANOTHER car/sports car that is a PDK/Automatic.

I would bet that if the GT3 was the ONLY car the buyer could own, the statistics would be even more heavily weighted to the PDK option.
I would be the outlier. My other Porsche 911 track car and my daily driver (Mits Evo 9) are also Manual. I haven't owned an Automatic vehicle of any kind in 20 years.
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I have only had paddles in my cars for the last 13 years. I miss the involvement and connection and am going manual 100%.

I live in a city where there is no need to drive, so when I do it is for the enjoyment.
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I haven't owned an automatic for nearly 20 years now.
Old 11-14-2017, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Icutyou
source or can anyone confirm?
It's confirmed that manual GT3 gets mechanical diff while the PDK GT3 gets an e-diff. The e-diff offers slightly more performance, while the mechanical diff feels slightly more natural.

Several industry reviewers have commented that the mechanical diff in the manual .2 GT3 gives it a more classic 911 feel, than the e-diff in the PDK .2 GT3.
Old 11-14-2017, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Drifting
It's confirmed that manual GT3 gets mechanical diff while the PDK GT3 gets an e-diff. The e-diff offers slightly more performance, while the mechanical diff feels slightly more natural.

Several industry reviewers have commented that the mechanical diff in the manual .2 GT3 gives it a more classic 911 feel, than the e-diff in the PDK .2 GT3.
Well, that post just made my day...
Old 11-14-2017, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by IrishAndy
Well, that post just made my day...
Lets just hope they’ve done some work to make the mechanical diff a bit more resilient (longer lasting clutch plates).
Old 11-14-2017, 05:19 PM
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Well as I get older, working a clutch is not the first thing I want to do. Like yourself I plan to daily drive my car (Houston traffic) and probably do about 4-6 DE's a year. When I traded in my 15 after 3 years in anticipation of getting the 18, I already had 25,000 miles on it (but only 6 on the new 'G' motor). I was told this was HIGH mileage for this car. I did observe other 15's traded in that had 5K miles on them... I guess they sat in the garage and only did track days. I simply love driving this car every day! For me PDK is the way to go... best for the track; and daily driving in heavy traffic.
Old 11-14-2017, 09:32 PM
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odds are you could pull the rear diff and totally open it up and no one would know its open, now maybe a small percentage would feel it, but the value of an electronic diff and a manual diff is milliseconds when engaging. I ordered a manual, but have multiple cars, (not sports cars) but just don't get the feeling from the PDK. I also don't care about lap times and will spend my weekends driving it in the smokeys.

Either pdk or manual, you could not pick a better sports car to own


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