times change, 'progress' occurs
new stuff drives alot better, can't deny
but the old sh*t is just plain kool...

 

didnt lexus solve this problem with the LFA and didnt Nissan solve this problem w the the new Z? so it can be done by being creative to protect the customer/enthusiast from the dealer body

 

yes 964 yes

 

Thank goodness another GT3 for sale on the forum. Used and only $14K over MSRP.

 

Seems to be the hot topic again!

 

Prices seem to be all over the place. For awhile, there were a few even under MSRP, and now ones like this. Is the lack of RS starting to drive prices up again?

 

Prices are not going up. They have started to slowly drop and cars aren't moving as fast at current prices.

Same goes for the 997 GT's and 993's. Lots of buyers on the sidelines waiting to buy when prices dip enough. Great cars (and always will be), but huge run up in prices. The market has definitely started to slow down. What's next?? Can't say! I think will continue into the winter and depends on the stock market come spring time. 991.1 GT3's hit their high this past June/July. I hear few allocations will be trickling down in Porsche's 4th quarter. One dealer I know just got one this past week.

 

It will be a hot topic for a long time as I'm not sure anyone is ever comfortable paying "market" or "markup" adjustment (even those that decide to go for it).....not sure if we will ever accept that market sets price either. We don't like it because we know some are paying MSRP at dealers but it's a pay to play market now on RS if you didn't lock in deposit a long time back. Regardless of speculation and conspirisy theories that you read on here, PAG can't build more because sometimes when you strive to built something slightly different the specific parts you include don't grow on suppliers trees. They are more labor intensive and time consuming and can't be built at same speed as cars. This is what limits supply and dealers are capitalizing on it with RS (some are still thinking long term customer satisfaction and want to keep loyalty to good customers) but most are thinking that cars are so good that regardless the customer will want another in future at $25k-$50k over again. I'm a firm no additional dealer markup purchaser, I will ditch brand completely if it comes down to the world ending and ALL Porsche dealers were to add profit on top of MSRP but that is personal choice and I'm not losing sleep at night over those dealers that choose to do it.

 

Interesting .... Ferrari to bump up production by 30% by 2019 to 9,000 cars a year.

http://www.worldcarfans.com/11510151...o-9000-cars-by

 

Wow, amazing...a car company that will build more cars to meet demand that will result in higher revenue and profit...what a novel business idea. Maybe VW/PAG can take some pointers. As the saying goes...if it don't make dollars, it don't make sense.

 

or...if it's not broken, don't fix it

 

For all those frustrated P car owners that are tired of paying $50-$100k over MSRP. They can go change brands now.

 

You'll be back.

Once smitten ....

 

You know what, I went out of my way to play by the rules and am trying to establish a dealer relationship with 3 non-stealerships and will even offer up trade ins of my GT3 and GT4 when my name is called. If I don't end up getting the cars that I want when the .2 GT cars come out then I'll be moving on to a car marker that makes it easier to spend my money. Simple as that.

 

I feel you but it would be tough for me to leave the brand.