Any word of 2008 engine failures resulting from IMS failure ?
#16
Sure do. We have two solutions.
One we do in house where we modify the shaft, pin the sprocket, plug the tube, etc. Typically if the bearing has failed, this is the better approach as we certify the shaft hasn't been compromised.
The other is an upgrade kit and there is an accompanying supplemental tool kit to allow you to pull the bearing and install the new bearing while the shaft is on the bench.
One we do in house where we modify the shaft, pin the sprocket, plug the tube, etc. Typically if the bearing has failed, this is the better approach as we certify the shaft hasn't been compromised.
The other is an upgrade kit and there is an accompanying supplemental tool kit to allow you to pull the bearing and install the new bearing while the shaft is on the bench.
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Here is the link with the information about the 06-08 kits:
http://www.imsretrofit.com/my06-08/
We don't sell them directly to consumer, but Pelican should.
http://www.imsretrofit.com/my06-08/
We don't sell them directly to consumer, but Pelican should.
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73K miles 2006 Cayman S. Travelling in a straight line on a dry road at around 65mph, the vehicle's engine expired in a huge plume of coolant/oil. Flatbedded to a Porsche dealership, a technician using a boroscope found (according to the dealership) "scoring to #5 cylinder and evidence that a valve had hit the top of the piston. There was also a huge amount of metal debris in the oil filter." This was a result of something failing in the engine, rather than the cause of the failure. The Porsche dealership did not care to determine the cause of the failure. I suspect intermediate main shaft (IMS) failure. One year beyond certified pre-owned (CPO) warranty and $20K for a new engine.
#20
Boxster S 2006 engine failure. My 987 had a IMS failure at 66,450 miles. Replacement engine from Porsche lasted 200 miles until loud band and oil coming out on road. This happened while coasting down driveway in second at about 1800 rpm. Not sure what cause is yet but this engine is dead also.
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Don't Believe All You Read On The Net
Those here should be aware that Charles from L&N is selling something. There are a number of sites that do the same: OMG, you better install my product NOW, or else!!! I'm not saying he isn't knowledgable or offering a good product, but he is selling his IMS update and it is in his best interest to put fear into all 996 owners.
I have seen Boxsters and 911s (986,996,997 etc.) with over 200k miles and they have the original engine and IMS. A lot of lawyers and IMS updaters are selling their services. There was an issue with failures, but 96% of the time, or more, it is NEVER an issue. I owned a 2001 S Boxster that I recently sold and it was all original, no issues with the IMS. 14 year old car/IMS. I spoke to two different dealers' repair departments and they said it was extremely rare. Once or twice in ten years.
Yet, there are a few shops with a $20,000 research budget that will tell you they have made a better replacement product than Porsche's multi-million dollar research team. Ask the manufacturer of the IMS update if it warranties the engine against IMS failure. The answer is no. In fact, if you pry, you'll find it's an experimental product. How many of these updates have failed? Well, ask yourself how many were installed and how recently. The truth is, they have no way of knowing how long their IMS update will last, nor do they have a large enough data set to give reliable information. No warranty. No proof. Just their opinion.
I drove my car and did not worry about it. Now, if I needed to replace my clutch I might consider replacing the IMS, but I would be wary of installing "Bob's IMS update".
Porsche made many changes and improvements to the IMS. The later versions, about 2006 I think, are bullet proof. The larger IMS that Porsche designed prior to that version is an improvement. The turbos have little or no IMS issues.
Anyway, my advice is to be aware what someone is selling when they give you their advice! I'm not selling anything...
Just enjoy your car and drive it!
I have seen Boxsters and 911s (986,996,997 etc.) with over 200k miles and they have the original engine and IMS. A lot of lawyers and IMS updaters are selling their services. There was an issue with failures, but 96% of the time, or more, it is NEVER an issue. I owned a 2001 S Boxster that I recently sold and it was all original, no issues with the IMS. 14 year old car/IMS. I spoke to two different dealers' repair departments and they said it was extremely rare. Once or twice in ten years.
Yet, there are a few shops with a $20,000 research budget that will tell you they have made a better replacement product than Porsche's multi-million dollar research team. Ask the manufacturer of the IMS update if it warranties the engine against IMS failure. The answer is no. In fact, if you pry, you'll find it's an experimental product. How many of these updates have failed? Well, ask yourself how many were installed and how recently. The truth is, they have no way of knowing how long their IMS update will last, nor do they have a large enough data set to give reliable information. No warranty. No proof. Just their opinion.
I drove my car and did not worry about it. Now, if I needed to replace my clutch I might consider replacing the IMS, but I would be wary of installing "Bob's IMS update".
Porsche made many changes and improvements to the IMS. The later versions, about 2006 I think, are bullet proof. The larger IMS that Porsche designed prior to that version is an improvement. The turbos have little or no IMS issues.
Anyway, my advice is to be aware what someone is selling when they give you their advice! I'm not selling anything...
Just enjoy your car and drive it!
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Porsche made many changes and improvements to the IMS. The later versions, about 2006 I think, are bullet proof. The larger IMS that Porsche designed prior to that version is an improvement. The turbos have little or no IMS issues.
Anyway, my advice is to be aware what someone is selling when they give you their advice! I'm not selling anything...
Just enjoy your car and drive it!
Anyway, my advice is to be aware what someone is selling when they give you their advice! I'm not selling anything...
Just enjoy your car and drive it!
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