Base Cayman..thoughts...Slow??
#1
Base Cayman..thoughts...Slow??
Setting up my mission for a Cayman and I just cant spend over 50k or so budget wise (incl down payment). My last car was an 04 Base Boxster which was fairly quick (227h.p.) but needed more rush up top.
My question is spec wise the Cayman is not a total slug, but I would like some driving opinions. Anyone driven one yet?
My last question is this, is the 2.7 maxed out now at 245 and the next base model will be like a 3.0 or something?
My question is spec wise the Cayman is not a total slug, but I would like some driving opinions. Anyone driven one yet?
My last question is this, is the 2.7 maxed out now at 245 and the next base model will be like a 3.0 or something?
#3
Just for comparison:
1973 Carrera RS M471 210 hp. Top Speed 152... 0-62 in 5.8 seconds
1990 Carrera 2 250 hp. Top Speed 162... 0-62 in 5.7 seconds
1993 Carrera Speedster 250 hp. Top Speed 162...0-62 in 5.7 seconds
1993 Turbo 3.6 360 hp. Top Speed 175... 0-62 in 4.8 seconds
Now, clap your hands together...that took "about" one second. That's the difference between 4.8 and 5.8 seconds. So, is the base Cayman is a slug?... I don't think so.
Would you rather have a Cayman with a 3.8?... Of course, I would, but I can't afford it.
People who buy P-cars always will want more hp...and more hp...and more hp. Only a few years ago a base Cayman would have been considered a cutting edge balanced super car. But now its "slow"...because we all some how became traffic light racers... maybe its just a sign of the our over crowed streets and vehicles like Z06 and Vipers.
My advice to you is to buy as much P-car as you can afford. You will always be looking for more hp. Even the guys who can own any car they want are still looking for more horse power and the rest of us are taking out the plastic covers in our intakes!
Base 2007 Cayman 245 hp. Top Speed 161... 0-60 in 5.8 seconds.
Not a supercar, but not a slug...$49,400.00 without options, minus $5000.00 discount equals one hell of a car for $44,400.00 and its new for the next 14 months.
1973 Carrera RS M471 210 hp. Top Speed 152... 0-62 in 5.8 seconds
1990 Carrera 2 250 hp. Top Speed 162... 0-62 in 5.7 seconds
1993 Carrera Speedster 250 hp. Top Speed 162...0-62 in 5.7 seconds
1993 Turbo 3.6 360 hp. Top Speed 175... 0-62 in 4.8 seconds
Now, clap your hands together...that took "about" one second. That's the difference between 4.8 and 5.8 seconds. So, is the base Cayman is a slug?... I don't think so.
Would you rather have a Cayman with a 3.8?... Of course, I would, but I can't afford it.
People who buy P-cars always will want more hp...and more hp...and more hp. Only a few years ago a base Cayman would have been considered a cutting edge balanced super car. But now its "slow"...because we all some how became traffic light racers... maybe its just a sign of the our over crowed streets and vehicles like Z06 and Vipers.
My advice to you is to buy as much P-car as you can afford. You will always be looking for more hp. Even the guys who can own any car they want are still looking for more horse power and the rest of us are taking out the plastic covers in our intakes!
Base 2007 Cayman 245 hp. Top Speed 161... 0-60 in 5.8 seconds.
Not a supercar, but not a slug...$49,400.00 without options, minus $5000.00 discount equals one hell of a car for $44,400.00 and its new for the next 14 months.
#7
Originally Posted by fletch
Is the 2.7 done at 245h.p.?
If you are concerned about HP, then get a lightly used S.
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#8
Burning Brakes
I had a base Cayman loaner over the weekend while my new S was being readied. It's not a slow car statistically but.....it feels slow, mostly due to its rather lofty torque curve. I must say though it felt much better after two days of driving it than it ever did on a 20 minute test drive and even though it was a loaner I didn't beat on it, didn't need to pace with traffic. All in all, I'm grateful that the current inventory situation allowed the price of a leftover '06 S to come down enough to make bridging the gap doable. On the other hand, I will never denigrate the base model, it certainly offers a solid car for less. If I had gotten one, I would have kept the options sheet small. I had one specced out with just Xenons, 18" wheels, and auto AC for around $53K MSRP.
#9
Base 2007 Cayman 245 hp. Top Speed 161... 0-60 in 5.8 seconds.
Not a supercar, but not a slug...$49,400.00 without options, minus $5000.00 discount equals one hell of a car for $44,400.00 and its new for the next 14 months.[/QUOTE]
where can u get a base cayman for $44,400?
Not a supercar, but not a slug...$49,400.00 without options, minus $5000.00 discount equals one hell of a car for $44,400.00 and its new for the next 14 months.[/QUOTE]
where can u get a base cayman for $44,400?
#11
Rennlist Member
9-11% is typically on leftover 06's. Though I am sure good deals can be had on standard Caymans, as there does seem to be plenty around.
It may "pull harder" but you'd be hard pressed to really feel it.
Michael
It may "pull harder" but you'd be hard pressed to really feel it.
Michael
#13
Burning Brakes
The issue is not the engine but how drivable the car is. I drove a six speed 2,7 recently with the magic suspension button and it was a very fast point to point. With the button pressed it was impressive as a slalom car as well.
I'm now considering one seriously....the lease deals are very cheap !!
Does anyone know the gear ratios of the five speed box compared to the six speed box?
I'm now considering one seriously....the lease deals are very cheap !!
Does anyone know the gear ratios of the five speed box compared to the six speed box?
#14
I had a base Cayman loaner over the weekend while my new S was being readied. It's not a slow car statistically but.....it feels slow, mostly due to its rather lofty torque curve.
I remember test driving a S2000 a few years ago. That car had a decent HP number which I believe was around 250 which isn't too bad for a light car, but it felt slow because it had very low torque output. On the other hand one of my coworkers has a Infiniti G35 sedan with around 270 lb/ft of torque and that car felt quick. If you look at the performance times for both cars, the S2000 is about a half sec quicker in the 0-60. So it seems that for the street, torque is important whereas for the track HP is important.
I remember test driving a S2000 a few years ago. That car had a decent HP number which I believe was around 250 which isn't too bad for a light car, but it felt slow because it had very low torque output. On the other hand one of my coworkers has a Infiniti G35 sedan with around 270 lb/ft of torque and that car felt quick. If you look at the performance times for both cars, the S2000 is about a half sec quicker in the 0-60. So it seems that for the street, torque is important whereas for the track HP is important.
#15
From what I have read, you have to get PASM to get the 6 speed manual. All of the non-S I have seen only have the 5 speed manual. As others are pointing out, if you have $40K to $50K you are in 964 / 993 territory. These are going to have to come down close to $40k to get people to bite.