was told that Boxsters = crap
#1
was told that Boxsters = crap
Ive been eyeing a new 987...
Today I was at the local Porsche mechanic. He is highly respected as the best in this area, and one of the tops in LA. I mentioned that I was thinking about a new Box S..and he says "Boxsters are s--t. There are at least 10 major problems with those cars, and they are not getting fixed with the new version. If you are going to get one, you'd better lease it. We have seen a ton of problems with those cars".
I mentioned the great magazine reviews that the 987S has been getting and he says "Yeah, the magazines told us that they are not going to mention the problems in print...but they know all about them. Same with the 996, the same problems are going on with the 997s that the 996s had. Porsche doesnt want to let us race those cars...."
Now, I normally take those words with a grain of salt, but this guy is highly respected. So, it has me wondering...
Today I was at the local Porsche mechanic. He is highly respected as the best in this area, and one of the tops in LA. I mentioned that I was thinking about a new Box S..and he says "Boxsters are s--t. There are at least 10 major problems with those cars, and they are not getting fixed with the new version. If you are going to get one, you'd better lease it. We have seen a ton of problems with those cars".
I mentioned the great magazine reviews that the 987S has been getting and he says "Yeah, the magazines told us that they are not going to mention the problems in print...but they know all about them. Same with the 996, the same problems are going on with the 997s that the 996s had. Porsche doesnt want to let us race those cars...."
Now, I normally take those words with a grain of salt, but this guy is highly respected. So, it has me wondering...
#2
If you can afford to buy new and take the depreciation hit by selling it before the warranty is up, then if you are suffering many issues like RMS, intermediate shafts ect. no big deal since Porsche will R&R. Although I don't know what Porsche's official story is on DE or track use re warranty.
Buying a used 996 or 986 out of warranty is another story.
Buying a used 996 or 986 out of warranty is another story.
#3
There are plenty of people on these boards that are very happy and have had no problems with their cars.
Additionally, I just read this. It was posted on Rennteam:
Credit to Porsche A. G. :
Porsche Boxster is "defect defiant"
Stuttgart. The Porsche Boxster is the winner of 2005’s respected car report conducted by the German Technical Inspections Association (TÜV). With a defect rating of 2.6 per cent, the mid-engine sports car displays the fewest significant defects in one of the TÜV’s main inspections. For this reason, the Association’s engineers have named the Porsche Boxster as “defect defiant” and thereby as the best car in the group of two to three year old vehicles. Positions two and three of this category went to the Mazda Demio (defect rating of 2.8 per cent) and the Audi A4 (defect rating of 3.2 per cent). For the second year running, the Porsche 911 won first place in the group of eight to nine year old as well as ten and eleven year old automobiles.
Summarized in the TÜV car report, the results are based on data gathered during 7.65 million main inspections carried out by the Association’s engineers on passenger cars registered in Germany in 2004. Though about 81 per cent of all vehicles examined at TÜV inspection stations pass without further ado, 18.7% of the inspected vehicles possess significant defects and represent a danger for road safety.
“For us, this result is the reward for and proof of our efforts to enhance quality over the past few years. Our aim is to ensure a high standard of quality not only in production, but also to lay the groundwork for a high-quality product as early as in the development phase,” said Wolfgang Dürheimer, member of the Executive Board of Management for Research and Development, with regard to the performance of the brand based in Zuffenhausen near Stuttgart.
Additionally, I just read this. It was posted on Rennteam:
Credit to Porsche A. G. :
Porsche Boxster is "defect defiant"
Stuttgart. The Porsche Boxster is the winner of 2005’s respected car report conducted by the German Technical Inspections Association (TÜV). With a defect rating of 2.6 per cent, the mid-engine sports car displays the fewest significant defects in one of the TÜV’s main inspections. For this reason, the Association’s engineers have named the Porsche Boxster as “defect defiant” and thereby as the best car in the group of two to three year old vehicles. Positions two and three of this category went to the Mazda Demio (defect rating of 2.8 per cent) and the Audi A4 (defect rating of 3.2 per cent). For the second year running, the Porsche 911 won first place in the group of eight to nine year old as well as ten and eleven year old automobiles.
Summarized in the TÜV car report, the results are based on data gathered during 7.65 million main inspections carried out by the Association’s engineers on passenger cars registered in Germany in 2004. Though about 81 per cent of all vehicles examined at TÜV inspection stations pass without further ado, 18.7% of the inspected vehicles possess significant defects and represent a danger for road safety.
“For us, this result is the reward for and proof of our efforts to enhance quality over the past few years. Our aim is to ensure a high standard of quality not only in production, but also to lay the groundwork for a high-quality product as early as in the development phase,” said Wolfgang Dürheimer, member of the Executive Board of Management for Research and Development, with regard to the performance of the brand based in Zuffenhausen near Stuttgart.
#5
Sonic, I too am a Porsche tech. I work for a Porsche dealer. I strongly disagreed with your "highly respected" source. A "ton" of problems with a car that has been out roughly a month?? WTF is this guy talking about? Apperently he's is also Porsche's PR guy with the media!!
Porsche "doesn't want to let us race those cars"? Why would you WANT to? They are STREET cars not RACE cars. There are so many reasons I could give you why but am not going to waste my time or yours.
Sorry but you need to find a new expert. Go drive the car for yourself. Ask current owners about their experiece. Then tell me how much you love your new Boxster.
Porsche "doesn't want to let us race those cars"? Why would you WANT to? They are STREET cars not RACE cars. There are so many reasons I could give you why but am not going to waste my time or yours.
Sorry but you need to find a new expert. Go drive the car for yourself. Ask current owners about their experiece. Then tell me how much you love your new Boxster.
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waht region of socal is your expertif from ? westlake viallege, Woodland hills? of Norwalk? ther eare only 2 true experts with a long history that are truley respected nationally ,,,,,and I know them all.........So what region...........? giving a region wont get them in trouble
#10
Originally Posted by schnell987
would you care to give your impressions/comparisons of each of your fine cars?
I won't do it tonight, but I will just for you.
#11
Thanks "tour". Im only stating what this owner of a leading shop told me. I am still considering the car and through this out for opinion sake, not to stir weak minds.
This particular shop is holding an upcoming seminar on problems with the 996 and Boxster, with recommendations on upgrades. I plan to attend and will give you the details at that point...
This particular shop is holding an upcoming seminar on problems with the 996 and Boxster, with recommendations on upgrades. I plan to attend and will give you the details at that point...
#12
Are you sure he wasn't knee deep in Cayenne problems, like every other dealer tech?
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#13
Originally Posted by Sonic dB
Thanks "tour". Im only stating what this owner of a leading shop told me. I am still considering the car and through this out for opinion sake, not to stir weak minds.
This particular shop is holding an upcoming seminar on problems with the 996 and Boxster, with recommendations on upgrades. I plan to attend and will give you the details at that point...
This particular shop is holding an upcoming seminar on problems with the 996 and Boxster, with recommendations on upgrades. I plan to attend and will give you the details at that point...
I have a 996 C4S, and have just signed the order for a 2005 Boxster S to add to the garage. I track the car, drive it like I stole it, just got done with the 30K mile maintenance, and have had 0 problems with it. The RMS problem is out there, and you can look at the extensive discussions that have been made. I will put my 996 up against any car in the same price range in terms of reliability and problem free status given what I expect and make the car do.
#14
Originally Posted by Eric - Plug Guy
Are you sure he wasn't knee deep in Cayenne problems, like every other dealer tech?
Next time, tell me that one's coming, OK Eric