Brake Pads : Brembo and Textar
10-31-2019, 12:23 AM
#31
Looks like I'll be settling for this kit
www.newparts.com
Thanks for all the advice and time guys. Much appreciated.
Brembo Front Brake Kit Low-Met Pads Sensors Disc Rotors for Porsche 911 Boxster
Brembo Front Brake Kit Low-Met Pads Sensors Disc Rotors for Porsche 911 BoxsterThanks for all the advice and time guys. Much appreciated.
10-31-2019, 11:51 PM
#32
The rotor wear with yellows is excellent and generally you'll see rotor replacement needed due to heat cycles vs. wear thickness on the track.
Changing to slotted rotors like Sebro for track work will help with the hole to hole cracking of stock rotors.
The main downside of yellows is they're loud on the street as you slow to a stop. Also they're capable of getting more heat in the brakes so going to a high temp fluid is recommended.
Some people feel that SRF is overkill, but if you track often and are in a hot climate, imho it's worth it because I've boiled Motul 600 before on 100F track days and the SRF requires less bleeding/flushing.
That said, if you're only going to the track a couple times a year, the yellows are a bit of overkill vs. the R fronts and the street squeal will probably bug most unless you swap them in/out for track days.
Changing to slotted rotors like Sebro for track work will help with the hole to hole cracking of stock rotors.
The main downside of yellows is they're loud on the street as you slow to a stop. Also they're capable of getting more heat in the brakes so going to a high temp fluid is recommended.
Some people feel that SRF is overkill, but if you track often and are in a hot climate, imho it's worth it because I've boiled Motul 600 before on 100F track days and the SRF requires less bleeding/flushing.
That said, if you're only going to the track a couple times a year, the yellows are a bit of overkill vs. the R fronts and the street squeal will probably bug most unless you swap them in/out for track days.
11-01-2019, 10:51 PM
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Textar, Mintex, Pagid, etc. not Brembo
Textar is factory on non M BMWs
Pagid is factory on M BMWs.
11-02-2019, 06:46 PM
#34
https://tmdfriction.com/
Textar, Mintex, Pagid, etc. not Brembo
Textar is factory on non M BMWs
Pagid is factory on M BMWs.
Textar, Mintex, Pagid, etc. not Brembo
Textar is factory on non M BMWs
Pagid is factory on M BMWs.
11-02-2019, 11:24 PM
#35
https://tmdfriction.com/
Textar, Mintex, Pagid, etc. not Brembo
Textar is factory on non M BMWs
Pagid is factory on M BMWs.
Textar, Mintex, Pagid, etc. not Brembo
Textar is factory on non M BMWs
Pagid is factory on M BMWs.
11-03-2019, 01:41 AM
#36
My advice is you stick with OEM everything. Been down so many aftermarket roads and you get what you pay for. Unless you’re tracking and upgrading, stick to what’s recommended.
11-03-2019, 06:20 AM
#37
Does make sense but suerly Brembo can;t be bad right... I hope... I'm giving a lot of equity to the Brembo brand and their online customer service has been first rate!
11-03-2019, 11:09 AM
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That's like saying buy a Camry or all season tires. They don't do anything bad, and they don't do anything good. You also ignore the fact that bean counters had a say in the decision making process. Brembo supplied/supplies many parts to Porsche. The brochure for the S2, and 951 I had boasted about four pot Brembo calipers. Now they are junk because Nissan and other manufacturers offer them as an option?
11-03-2019, 12:05 PM
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11-04-2019, 09:10 AM
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It's not clear to me what the magic is in OE parts. Clearly, no car manufacturer makes every part of its vehicles, so other parts manufacturers are used for reasons of cost. Since economies of scale come into play for all manufacturing, it is less expensive to utilize existing suppliers and parts whenever possible. Therefore Porsche, like others, go to the same companies (for brake parts as an example) as VW, Audi and maybe BMW. As noted in this thread, it seems like Brembo doesn't even make its pads and rotors in some instances. Therefore, aside from the Porsche branding, items like pads and rotors shouldn't vary that much from OEM replacements - especially name brands like Brembo. My experience with Brembo pads on my 2008 BS, have be positive and they came from (dare I say it) Rockauto. Other than putting out less dust per mile, they perform the same as the OE pads they replaced.
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11-04-2019, 01:59 PM
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Sure there are plenty of times OE makes sense, but seems like a case-by-case basis that requires a bit of research each time.
11-07-2019, 11:34 AM
#42
Brake pads are definitely an area one can improve over OE - but each person's definition of improvement is highly unique. For street, I want far less dust and less bite (yes, less) than OE. For track, I don't care one bit about noise or dust, just good performance, durability and resistance to fade. OE didn't really satisfy my requirements, so I swapped them out. Somebody else's requirements are undoubtedly going to be different, and maybe OE suits those needs.
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11-23-2019, 07:43 PM
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I've had a pretty different experience. The rotors are a prime example - almost no way to convince me the OE drilled rotors are a better option than aftermarket slotted, at any price.
Sure there are plenty of times OE makes sense, but seems like a case-by-case basis that requires a bit of research each time.
Sure there are plenty of times OE makes sense, but seems like a case-by-case basis that requires a bit of research each time.
I would like to find a low dust pad that doesn't sacrifice brake feel. Some say Hawk, some say Textar, Brembo, The discussion goes on ad nauseum. Does anyone have a brand name and part numbers? TIA dlb
08-10-2022, 11:12 PM
#44
I'm disappointed in my Brembo pads and I'm replacing them.
When I bought my car (used) I put on 4 ATE rotors and textar pads. I used RBF 600. I had a great experience. Street use was great. Rallies were great.
Fast forward a few years, and several rallies, and it was time to replace the fronts. I went with ATE rotors again, but I spent a little extra to get Brembo pads. The brembo packaging was exceptional and I was so excited to try them out.
I Went to my first rally and the brakes were MUCH less effective than the textars. Less initial bite. Less bit when hot. Just overall worse. They also have less initial bite when cold on the street.
Textars are cheap, they don't seem fancy, and they're not great on the track. But for street use and canyon carving they're definitely better than Brembo pads
When I bought my car (used) I put on 4 ATE rotors and textar pads. I used RBF 600. I had a great experience. Street use was great. Rallies were great.
Fast forward a few years, and several rallies, and it was time to replace the fronts. I went with ATE rotors again, but I spent a little extra to get Brembo pads. The brembo packaging was exceptional and I was so excited to try them out.
I Went to my first rally and the brakes were MUCH less effective than the textars. Less initial bite. Less bit when hot. Just overall worse. They also have less initial bite when cold on the street.
Textars are cheap, they don't seem fancy, and they're not great on the track. But for street use and canyon carving they're definitely better than Brembo pads