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Old 10-30-2019, 12:54 AM
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Many labeled brake pads made by other company's are manufactured for what that vendor thinks is the best braking compound, if Porsche Textar and Pagid are all produced by the same company they do not all feel the same.
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Originally Posted by daylorb
There is an upgraded over the S pads btw... The stock Spyder/R pads should fit, and you can get the Textar brand rather than the Porsche-stamped. They are inexpensive and perform very, very well on street and even on light track usage (i.e. an HPDE day). IMHO they are the best-kept secret in pads for these cars.
Same part number, same pad..............99735193906
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Originally Posted by schell
Many labeled brake pads made by other company's are manufactured for what that vendor thinks is the best braking compound, if Porsche Textar and Pagid are all produced by the same company they do not all feel the same.
Correct, many OEM Textar pads will have a different compound to Porsche Textar pads. 964 C2 to C4 as an example, same size pad, different compound
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Originally Posted by schell
Many labeled brake pads made by other company's are manufactured for what that vendor thinks is the best braking compound, if Porsche Textar and Pagid are all produced by the same company they do not all feel the same.
I just replaced my OEM front pads with the Pagid equivalents from RockAuto and have nothing bad to say. About 10% less dust which is negligible and they stop exactly the same if not VERY slightly better. I do get a really light squeak when there is no heat in the pads but it is not an issue whatsoever.
Old 10-30-2019, 11:00 AM
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I am using Posi Quiet Semi Metallic on my Cayman. Very quiet, less dust than OEM, and they cost < $100 for all four corners. I was impressed they came with hardware (brackets and pins) in the box. Go with slotted rotors instead of drilled. They are less prone to cracking and will last longer.
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Originally Posted by olegd
I am using Posi Quiet Semi Metallic on my Cayman. Very quiet, less dust than OEM, and they cost < $100 for all four corners. I was impressed they came with hardware (brackets and pins) in the box. Go with slotted rotors instead of drilled. They are less prone to cracking and will last longer.
Yup. I'm fixed now on Sebro slotted as the Brembos I was looking at is out of stock everywhere. For pads, I think I'll go with the textar pads for the Cayman R which daylorb recommended.

Thanks again.
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Originally Posted by Liongolfer
Yup. I'm fixed now on Sebro slotted as the Brembos I was looking at is out of stock everywhere. For pads, I think I'll go with the textar pads for the Cayman R which daylorb recommended.

Thanks again.
They are the same as your Boxster S pads, not an upgrade
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Originally Posted by 911PERVY
They are the same as your Boxster S pads, not an upgrade
ECS has a different part number for R and S pads but the same part numbers for discs and calipers for both Rand S. Won't this mean there is some difference for in the pads for the 2 models?
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Technically, you are right, 2009 Boxster S & Cayman R are 997 351 939 06, in 2010 Porsche changed the number for the Boxster S back to 997 351 939 05 which is the same number as used for the standard 2.9 Boxster. I suspect its all kidology from Porsche as the wanted their flagship top sports model "R" to be different to the Boxster S / Cayman S.
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Originally Posted by 911PERVY
Technically, you are right, 2009 Boxster S & Cayman R are 997 351 939 06, in 2010 Porsche changed the number for the Boxster S back to 997 351 939 05 which is the same number as used for the standard 2.9 Boxster. I suspect its all kidology from Porsche as the wanted their flagship top sports model "R" to be different to the Boxster S / Cayman S.
LOL... I had to choose the 2012 Cayman R pad on ECS as they had no R model listed for 2009 to 2011. The part numbers for caliper and rotors for my 2010 Cayman S and a 2012 Cayman r on ECS are the same.
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Arghhhh I found a dealer on ebay that has the Brembo rotors in stock as well as the Low Met pads... I'm so flippant... I guess I'm thinking Brembo as the Calipers are Brembo and its a big brand that's a brake specialist and been around a while.

No one has tried the low met pads?

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Originally Posted by Liongolfer
LOL... I had to choose the 2012 Cayman R pad on ECS as they had no R model listed for 2009 to 2011. The part numbers for caliper and rotors for my 2010 Cayman S and a 2012 Cayman r on ECS are the same.
The '09-'12 Cayman & S rotors and pads have always been the same and the R's front pads have always been an upgrade (rotors the same) and will work on all '09-'12 Cayman/Box & S.

The front R pad is a little better at dealing with track temps and conditions which makes it good for occasional mild DE, but like Pagids better for more frequent DE/TT. (although you get the street noise that comes with that)

Imho Pagid yellows have better modulation than PFC as PFC require less force but get into ABS more easily/quickly.
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I have been using the Cayman R pads on my CS I can feel a difference, I have heard really good things about Pagid Yellow, are they any harder on the on the rotors than the factory pads.
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Originally Posted by schell
I have been using the Cayman R pads on my CS I can feel a difference, I have heard really good things about Pagid Yellow, are they any harder on the on the rotors than the factory pads.
The rotor wear with yellows is excellent and generally you'll see rotor replacement needed due to heat cycles vs. wear thickness on the track.

Changing to slotted rotors like Sebro for track work will help with the hole to hole cracking of stock rotors.

The main downside of yellows is they're loud on the street as you slow to a stop. Also they're capable of getting more heat in the brakes so going to a high temp fluid is recommended.

Some people feel that SRF is overkill, but if you track often and are in a hot climate, imho it's worth it because I've boiled Motul 600 before on 100F track days and the SRF requires less bleeding/flushing.

That said, if you're only going to the track a couple times a year, the yellows are a bit of overkill vs. the R fronts and the street squeal will probably bug most unless you swap them in/out for track days.

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Old 10-30-2019, 11:15 PM
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FYI for those who may be interested. Have contacted Brembo which was ver responsive. They now have replaced the rotors for the cayman with a non-directional rotor. I inquired about the rotor and Low Met pads. Here is their response:

"yes, everything is just as you've written. 09.C880.11 is non-directional rotor, meaning left and right side have the same hole pattern.

NAO are more of a daily driver type of pads and low met are better performance and lower dust pads, I would certainly recommend those on Porsche cars."

Pricing is great on the new rotor as well.


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