982 GT4 Spyder?
#2056
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I’m confused... all 718 Spyder interiors for all colors have the same amount of Alcantara. The Spyder classic interior is actually just color and the trim is limited to GT silver paint only... vs exterior color or leather or carbon fiber. You only get more Alacantara if you tick the boxes... but it’s not limited to the SCI.
#2057
Eduardo!!!
where's the pictures? Congrats!
Steve
where's the pictures? Congrats!
Steve
#2058
Eduardo, above you indicated that Garnet Red, which came in the 981 Spyder Classic interior, is a darker color than the
Carrera Red in your 987 Spyder. It's my understanding that Carrera Red is the same as Garnet Red, based on the points
below, so I'd be curious to get your thoughts since you are our resident color expert:
Carrera Red in your 987 Spyder. It's my understanding that Carrera Red is the same as Garnet Red, based on the points
below, so I'd be curious to get your thoughts since you are our resident color expert:
fact where reports at the time that the color was the same as 'Carrera Red'.
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I do have personal experience with 'Bordeaux Red'....and it is nothing like the brighter 'Carrera Red' of the earlier time.
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to sidetrack this important & valuable thread. Just bear with me as I have a few trips plan in the next week or so before
I can get to it.
Saludos,
Eduardo
Scottsdale
#2059
SJW, a Carin' kinda guy
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One clarifying point above for the question about how much alcantara, the base interior has way less alcantara than the leather and spyder interiors which have the same amount.
Z356, congrats on finally getting the fiat. I look forward to seeing it. I did not know Poltrona Frau did 488 interiors. I know they did they panny exclusive interior. I bet it’s really nice.
I have been pretty vocal that the normal Porsche leather is not so great, natural leather is for sure nicer, and the club leather is nice (the 992 is getting this in Agave and Cohiba), then you go look at, for example, the optional lambo Urus leather and you realize what is possible.
Anyway, I wish Porsche would offer nicer leather interior options on GT cars like they used to (of course no one bought them back then, some tiny fraction were ordered with, for example, an Eduardo favorite, natural brown).
Z356, congrats on finally getting the fiat. I look forward to seeing it. I did not know Poltrona Frau did 488 interiors. I know they did they panny exclusive interior. I bet it’s really nice.
I have been pretty vocal that the normal Porsche leather is not so great, natural leather is for sure nicer, and the club leather is nice (the 992 is getting this in Agave and Cohiba), then you go look at, for example, the optional lambo Urus leather and you realize what is possible.
Anyway, I wish Porsche would offer nicer leather interior options on GT cars like they used to (of course no one bought them back then, some tiny fraction were ordered with, for example, an Eduardo favorite, natural brown).
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Yes, you are correct on the base interior having less Alcantara... but the Spyder Classic interior is simply just color only... no difference in Alcantara/Leather usage.
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I think you guys are making my point (which perhaps wasn’t clear from my post) about the value SCI presents. Specifically, SCI is only $2,800 compared to the cost of the Leather/Alcantara interiors with red, yellow or grey contrasting stitching at $3,660. So you pay $860 less for SCI and yet Porsche didn’t scrimp on the Alcantara in the SCI. You still get it on all of the surfaces you do with the higher priced Leather/Alcantara/Deviated Stitching interiors.
Plus, with SCI you’re getting a two-tone interior, something which historically has usually been priced higher in the Porsche world. Or, to look at it another way, with SCI you’re getting seats with deviating color inserts, which, again, is usually an upcharge.
Also, with SCI on the 981 you got carpeting in a color (black) which deviated from the Garnet Red seat color and I suspect the same is true for the 982 where I’m guessing you will get black carpeting despite the Bordeaux seats. Again, deviated carpeting is something you usually have to pay more for in the Porsche world, but it is part of the SCI package.
To me, you pay less for SCI, you get more features that you otherwise would have to pay more for, and Porsche doesn’t cheap out by reducing the amount of Alcantara in the SCI cabin compared to a car with Leather/Alcantara/Deviated Stitching.
Plus, with SCI you’re getting a two-tone interior, something which historically has usually been priced higher in the Porsche world. Or, to look at it another way, with SCI you’re getting seats with deviating color inserts, which, again, is usually an upcharge.
Also, with SCI on the 981 you got carpeting in a color (black) which deviated from the Garnet Red seat color and I suspect the same is true for the 982 where I’m guessing you will get black carpeting despite the Bordeaux seats. Again, deviated carpeting is something you usually have to pay more for in the Porsche world, but it is part of the SCI package.
To me, you pay less for SCI, you get more features that you otherwise would have to pay more for, and Porsche doesn’t cheap out by reducing the amount of Alcantara in the SCI cabin compared to a car with Leather/Alcantara/Deviated Stitching.
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I think you guys are making my point (which perhaps wasn’t clear from my post) about the value SCI presents. Specifically, SCI is only $2,800 compared to the cost of the Leather/Alcantara interiors with red, yellow or grey contrasting stitching at $3,660. So you pay $860 less for SCI and yet Porsche didn’t scrimp on the Alcantara in the SCI. You still get it on all of the surfaces you do with the higher priced Leather/Alcantara/Deviated Stitching interiors.
Plus, with SCI you’re getting a two-tone interior, something which historically has usually been priced higher in the Porsche world. Or, to look at it another way, with SCI you’re getting seats with deviating color inserts, which, again, is usually an upcharge.
Also, with SCI on the 981 you got carpeting in a color (black) which deviated from the Garnet Red seat color and I suspect the same is true for the 982 where I’m guessing you will get black carpeting despite the Bordeaux seats. Again, deviated carpeting is something you usually have to pay more for in the Porsche world, but it is part of the SCI package.
To me, you pay less for SCI, you get more features that you otherwise would have to pay more for, and Porsche doesn’t cheap out by reducing the amount of Alcantara in the SCI cabin compared to a car with Leather/Alcantara/Deviated Stitching.
Plus, with SCI you’re getting a two-tone interior, something which historically has usually been priced higher in the Porsche world. Or, to look at it another way, with SCI you’re getting seats with deviating color inserts, which, again, is usually an upcharge.
Also, with SCI on the 981 you got carpeting in a color (black) which deviated from the Garnet Red seat color and I suspect the same is true for the 982 where I’m guessing you will get black carpeting despite the Bordeaux seats. Again, deviated carpeting is something you usually have to pay more for in the Porsche world, but it is part of the SCI package.
To me, you pay less for SCI, you get more features that you otherwise would have to pay more for, and Porsche doesn’t cheap out by reducing the amount of Alcantara in the SCI cabin compared to a car with Leather/Alcantara/Deviated Stitching.
SCI isn’t my cup of tea... I like the red concept... it’s just not done right. I prefer the RS60... it’s the most accurate from a heritage standpoint.
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In Aus at least, the classic int is marginally cheaper than the contrast stitch leather option.
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I have full natural brown leather in my 05 Boxster S that I picked up recently. Best Porsche interior by far — would order it without hesitation. I wonder why it is not available 15 years later.
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As of now no interior choice eliminates alcantara seat centers, meaning you can't have ventilated seats. Have ventilated seats on my Macan S and like them a lot.
As of now you cannot order Lane Change Assist (LCA). Have it on my Macan S and love it, great safety feature worth every penny. Can order it on a base Boxster, why not a Spyder? Even more important to have it on a low visibility car like a Spyder.
As of now you cannot order PDK and the weak manual transmission used requires the new 4.0 to be torque limited. The whole reason to prefer NA is the hill shaped torque curve, makes driving much more exciting than the turbo like wall of torque. Test drove a base 982 Cayman with a 6 speed yesterday. It had a surprising about of power for a base but there is a large area of the power band where it does sound like a vacuum.. Fun for 15 minutes, but after that a manual can get tiring. Maybe if I was younger. PDK is faster than even the best driver in a manual.
As of now you cannot order RWS. Game changing according to reviewers. No FAL for those with steep driveways. PDCC?
Red dash of the SCI sucks, reflective.
Porsche doesn't like flippers to make profit that should go in Porsche's account, so they jacked the price 18 percent. Don't have a problem with that except dealers think they can still get ADM too. Don't pay it, there will be plenty to go around. This is 2019 pricing, not 2018.
As of now you cannot order Lane Change Assist (LCA). Have it on my Macan S and love it, great safety feature worth every penny. Can order it on a base Boxster, why not a Spyder? Even more important to have it on a low visibility car like a Spyder.
As of now you cannot order PDK and the weak manual transmission used requires the new 4.0 to be torque limited. The whole reason to prefer NA is the hill shaped torque curve, makes driving much more exciting than the turbo like wall of torque. Test drove a base 982 Cayman with a 6 speed yesterday. It had a surprising about of power for a base but there is a large area of the power band where it does sound like a vacuum.. Fun for 15 minutes, but after that a manual can get tiring. Maybe if I was younger. PDK is faster than even the best driver in a manual.
As of now you cannot order RWS. Game changing according to reviewers. No FAL for those with steep driveways. PDCC?
Red dash of the SCI sucks, reflective.
Porsche doesn't like flippers to make profit that should go in Porsche's account, so they jacked the price 18 percent. Don't have a problem with that except dealers think they can still get ADM too. Don't pay it, there will be plenty to go around. This is 2019 pricing, not 2018.
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Porsche doesn't like flippers to make profit that should go in Porsche's account, so they jacked the price 18 percent. Don't have a problem with that except dealers think they can still get ADM too. Don't pay it, there will be plenty to go around. This is 2019 pricing, not 2018.
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AP and others have indicated there will be a multi-year run of cars in an effort to get one in the hands of anyone that wants one and to avoid the shortage issues experienced on the 981 GT4, so it definitely sounds like the 982 will be less rare than the 987 and 981 and made in much larger numbers. Having said that, it is still a GT car and my guess would be they aren’t going to make a zillion of them either. Will be interesting to see how the numbers pan out, particularly the split between Spyders and GT4’s sold. I think most are expecting much more Spyder interest this go around.
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