mtmilam

I just added the FVD muffler, sound version to my new 981 boxster….It now finally sounds like it should..….No Drone….and if you're easy on the gas, its not to loud….But Put your foot down…and that Baby will Scream like a Banshee!!…Gurgles and pops sound much better than Video…but here is a idea.

orthojoe

Sounds great! I still can't get over how the pdk lever selector is backwards. Totally wrong.

mtmilam

..What do you mean Backwards….Push it Forward to upshift….flick it Backwards to Downshift….took a little getting used to….but I "think" Forward for Faster and Backwards for slowing down or downshifting…..

It is sort of not what I was used to….but I got used to it now.

orthojoe

Exactly. I'm very surprised that Porsche did it this way. Acura, Lexus, Nissan, etc, I can sort of understand why they do it that way because of their customer base. Porsche? I don't care what their customer base is, it's still no excuse for a company like Porsche. Then there's the buttons on the steering wheel. Why they don't just use the paddles for all PDK wheels doesn't make sense to me either. They switched everything around for it to all make sense on the new GT3, but it shouldn't be limited to just the GT3.

In any case, the exhaust note and burble on the new 981 sound awesome. That FVD makes it sound even better!

perretar

Sounds great. How much for that system, and where did you get it ?
I have a new Cayman and agree that the PDK shift action is intuitive. I use to drive a BMW 530i and it was the other way around. I much prefer the way the PDK shifts.

the_vetman

Eh... Joe was saying that he does NOT like the way PDK shifts.

Sequential shifter (e.g. Cup) = opposite of PDK.
991 GT3 = sequential way.
All other PDKs = opposite of sequential.

BTW, that exhaust sounds very good. I used to have FVD Sound on my Spyder and thought mine had sounded much quieter. 987.2 vs. 981 though.

mtmilam

The Whole system was 2400.00 including shipping and Taxes….ask for the Planet 9 discount. Rhonda is very helpful….takes about 2-3 weeks as it comes from Germany….Quality is excellent, probably outlast the Car

http://www.fvd.net/us/en/Porsche-0/B...d_Version.html

hf1

Sounds great! How would this compare to the OEM PSE?

I too don't like that pdk shift direction. Looks unnatural. There is a reason why upshifts are backward on most race car sequentials (Cups). When you're accelerating, inertia is pulling your arm backwards (easier upshifts backward). When you're braking, inertia is pulling your arm forward (easier downshifts forward).

Plus, the most used gears/shifts in a H-pattern manual on both road and track are 3to4-th upshifts and 4to3-rd downshifts. A sequential or pdk should mimic the direction of these shifts.

It's weird that Porsche would neglect the above when making this decision. Good sign they fixed it in the GT3. Hopefully this (and no buttons, paddles only) will be done across the model range going forward.

Keadog

That sounds great! Do you feel like the power/torque is increased at all?

mgerber

$%&# I wish you had not posted this. Now I have to do this mod as it clearly makes the car sound the way it should. That sounds great! Have you had the car out for a long drive with the top up? I had a different aftermarket exhaust on our 987.1 and it droned badly between 2600-2800 rpm at a steady cruise, and was too loud in the cabin with the top up.

orthojoe

+1000. Exactly. However, I highly doubt Porsche will change what they do with the non GT lineup. It would be too confusing for their legions of non-enthusiast buyers who are used to the pattern found in the vast majority of passenger cars. It's a shame, because a company like Mitsubishi can get it right with the DCT shifter in the Evo. At least they got it right in the GT3...

orthojoe

No, your BMW had it RIGHT....

hf1

I think having differing pdk shift patterns across the model range is much more confusing. Many GT3 owners also own other Porsche models. If I had a GT3 and a Boxster, both with pdk, it would be extremely inconvenient to have to re-program my brain depending on which car I'm driving.

I still strongly prefer MT for my sports cars (and have no interest in pdk) but after reading so many glowing reviews I could entertain the idea of a pdk in a Cayman S which would see decent track time. If they don't fix the pdk direction, getting one with pdk would be completely out of the question for me.

orthojoe

You do have a good point there, and I would agree with the reasoning. I just don't see it happening, IMO. You have to remember, the company has to cater to customers that need help with stuff like this:



The good thing is, there's really no good reason to use the lever selector on track, so I guess it's not a big deal. Paddles or full auto are the way to go anyway. Make sure to get a wheel with the paddles. Those buttons on the wheel are even less intuitive and HORRIBLE. Even station wagons and SUVs comes with paddles that make sense and not those convoluted buttons...

perretar

Eh... I understood that Joe does not like it, I was agreeing with mtmilam who said he does, and I also like the buttons on the Multi Function wheel.