Would you happen to have the Boxster MY13 PDF order guide?
Having second thoughts on my 981 color selection.
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Saludos,
Eduardo
PS Ok, perhaps an additional small trick! I do have this little bit of extra info on 'Porsche Exclusive' options for the new 981 which I obtained courtesy of our friends at Teamspeed! Pretty valuable information for those of you planning to custom-order a 981. Frankly a lot more options than I had to work with when I configured my 'unique' '12 Aqua Blue/Carrera Red Spyder last year!
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Stitching Z-Offering
Available stitching colors are
Black
Platinum Grey
Yachting Blue
Luxor Beige
Espresso
Pebble Grey
Carrera Red
Agate Grey
Guards Red
Lime Gold
Stitching of Seat in deviating thread
25081
$710
Stitching of door pull handles in deviating thread
26831
$390
Stitching of armrest in deviating thread
26841
$310
Stitching of door center panel in deviating thread
26851
$390
Stitching of door pull handles in deviating thread (individually selected)
26861
$390
Stitching of armrest deviating thread (individually selected)
26871
$310
Stitching of door center panel in deviating thread (individually selected)
26881
$390
Stitching of dashboard in deviating color (without stitching of instrument cover)
26241
$310
Stitching of instrument cover (dashboard) in deviating thread
25101
$310
Stitching of door trim in deviating thread
25103
$390
Stitching of dashboard in deviating thread (individually selected) -stitching of instrument cover not included-
26251
$310
Stitching of dashboard instrument cover in deviating thread (individually selected)
26002
$310
Stitching of door trim in deviating thread (individually selected)
26004
$390
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Interior Z-Offering
Available interior colors are
Black
Platinum Grey
Yachting Blue
Luxor Beige
Espresso
Pebble Grey
Carrera Red
Agate Grey
Standard leather Armrest in deviating color
26891
$310
Standard leather side pads center console in deviating color
26901
$310
Standard carpeting in deviating color
25071
$550
Standard leather upper dashboard panel in deviating color
25301
$470
Standard leather door center panel in deviating color
25782
$470
Standard leather door trim with deviating color
25601
$470
Standard leather steering wheel rim in deviating color
26981
$160
Standard leather airbag module steering wheel in deviating color
26982
$160
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Seats Z-Offering
Standard leather seat inlays in deviating color
25341
$550
Leather Seat inlays in color to sample
25481
$940
Seat inlays standard Alcantara deviating color
25801
$550
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One of my dealer contacts gave me this PTS list about two weeks ago but asked me not to post it in the forums in case PCNA didn't want it widely publicized. But last week a 6Speed forum member posted the list in that forum, so I felt I could comment on it then!
Regarding 'Gulf Blue' or 'Gulf Orange', I do not believe those feasibility studies are going anywhere - much less on a Panamera! I am surprised they don't tell potential customers 'don't bother' right off the mark. Gulf Oil is increasing more diligent in safeguarding what they believe to be a trade-mark color scheme! If you were at LeMans last year, as I was, you would understand what I am talking about. They are making a fortune on clothing with that color scheme and now even got the estate of Steve McQueen to approved his likeness in many of the items! Not to mention the various race teams being sponsored by Gulf that are currently bathed in those glorious 'Blue' and 'Orange' color schemes!
Here is the full text of what I wrote about this PTS list at 6speed recently:
"Series production folks worry about uniformity of colors on the various surfaces that paint is applied on their cars - steel, aluminum, plastic, carbon fiber, etc. How well do they adhere & cover? What base primer works best with it? What are the fade factors for each surface? It is not a theoretical issue for them - they worried about warranty claims from customers years down the road and to keep up the standards expected of a well painted luxury car that bears the Porsche badge.
There is also some political play in the world of PTS. Certain colors that were introduced in limited production models (e.g. Pure Blue in the recent Speedster or the 'Sport Classic Grey') are not permitted to be ordered via PTS. Popular old colors like 'Gulf Blue' and 'Gulf Orange', vintage production colors that remained popular until recently, are now in jeopardy because Gulf Oil has become very proprietary about its 'colors'. The last 'Gulf Blue' factory painted production car, to my knowledge, was in a PTS Carrera GT. And that was over 5 years ago! I asked for it in a MY2010 gt3 a few years back and it was denied. Regardless of the 'feasibility' study listed in the above report for those 'Gulf' colors, I doubt they will be approved. So you also have to contend with all of these political aspects in the PTS process.
Finally, we know there are paint issues that appear in the course of production which eventually pushes a color into oblivion. 'RS Orange' is case in point. It was a popular & exclusive gt3 RS color in MY2007. But in MY2008, Porsche allowed any other 911 to be ordered in this color. It also used 'RS Orange' for its limited edition Boxsters and Caymans in MY2008. It was last used in PTS MY2011, before it was disallowed sometime last year (early spring of 2011). In its place, PAG recommends a new (somewhat similar) color 'Pastell Orange'. 'Signal Yellow', an old vintage early 911 color, was allowed to be ordered on one gt3 RS that went to England. Something happened (probably warranty issues) and PAG refused to do that color again via PTS. On the other hand, 'RS Green', introduced in the MY2007 gt3 RS, is still listed as doable PTS color to this day. That is not 'Signal Green', my all time favorite, but a color of its own, specially designed for that model and since somewhat popular via PTS in other models.
Still, PAG may play hard ball on any PTS request. They may ask for a color sample on a metal surface to be sent to them at Zuffenhausen for feasibility studies. This will most certainly apply to a color not listed in the Exterior Paint to Sample attached by the OP. So even though my '07 997S was painted by the factory in 2007 in 'Signal Green' via PTS, I don't see it listed in the OP's list. I have their 'colour code' from the inside gas cap, but that might not be enough. So they may ask me to send them a sample of that color before they commit. Perhaps it is also a liability thing. If they have a sample from you and match it, you can't latter claim that the color is not the right one you ordered.
PTS is a game for those with patience. But for willing to put up with the bureaucracy of the Porsche ordering process, the results will be so unique as to be worth the effort!"
So Steve, I am pretty certain that 'Gulf Blue' is a no-no! There is a possibility that 'Gulf Orange' might be still possible, perhaps. It might slip through the cracks at PAG. I know a dealer in Texas that ordered that exact color on a 997 around MY2007/2008 and they were successful in getting it (see attached photo). To my knowledge, this was the last 'Gulf Orange' ever produced for the US market! This hue was originally a 'special color' on early 911's starting circa MY1972. It is absolutely beautiful - much more vibrant than the no longer available 'RS Orange' or the new 'Pastell Orange'.
Saludos,
Eduardo
Vail Valley, Colorado
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your spec
I would do one of two things...
option 1 keep original plan except do deviating carpet in black
option 2 switch interior and top to espresso ... I had a similar combo on a special edition Boxster a fews back it was GT Silver with a brown interior very nice ...
option 1 keep original plan except do deviating carpet in black
option 2 switch interior and top to espresso ... I had a similar combo on a special edition Boxster a fews back it was GT Silver with a brown interior very nice ...
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Great list Eduardo. Is this list from Porsche or just us fans that complied it? So all the colors that have been checked on that particular model signify that car being confirmed ordered in that color? If so, I want to see the
riviera and Mexico blue Panamera's!
riviera and Mexico blue Panamera's!
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B) Apparently all colors with green check mark are ready to go for that particular model. I find interesting that 'Atlas Grey Metallic' is not compatible with the 991 or 891...but Ok for the Panamera! Hard to believe the surfaces of one (the Panamera) are that different from the other two!
C) If you want to see that shocking 'Mexico Blue' Panamera, it is just a quick flight to the United Arab Emirates! And while there, please you check out the abandoned Enzo Ferrari some guy left at a police impound because he couldn't be bothered to collect it!
http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/fer...bai-2011-09-29
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I like this option, and it would be my choice. Why? Well, in part, because you need to consider how the top will age with time and use. The inevitable scuff marks, etc. are less visible on a black top. I've had Boxsters with black, light gray, and blue tops, by the way.
Good luck with your choice!
Good luck with your choice!
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Yes, I know, on a Panamera no less!
One of my dealer contacts gave me this PTS list about two weeks ago but asked me not to post it in the forums in case PCNA didn't want it widely publicized. But last week a 6Speed forum member posted the list in that forum, so I felt I could comment on it then!
Regarding 'Gulf Blue' or 'Gulf Orange', I do not believe those feasibility studies are going anywhere - much less on a Panamera! I am surprised they don't tell potential customers 'don't bother' right off the mark. Gulf Oil is increasing more diligent in safeguarding what they believe to be a trade-mark color scheme! If you were at LeMans last year, as I was, you would understand what I am talking about. They are making a fortune on clothing with that color scheme and now even got the estate of Steve McQueen to approved his likeness in many of the items! Not to mention the various race teams being sponsored by Gulf that are currently bathed in those glorious 'Blue' and 'Orange' color schemes!
Here is the full text of what I wrote about this PTS list at 6speed recently:
"Series production folks worry about uniformity of colors on the various surfaces that paint is applied on their cars - steel, aluminum, plastic, carbon fiber, etc. How well do they adhere & cover? What base primer works best with it? What are the fade factors for each surface? It is not a theoretical issue for them - they worried about warranty claims from customers years down the road and to keep up the standards expected of a well painted luxury car that bears the Porsche badge.
There is also some political play in the world of PTS. Certain colors that were introduced in limited production models (e.g. Pure Blue in the recent Speedster or the 'Sport Classic Grey') are not permitted to be ordered via PTS. Popular old colors like 'Gulf Blue' and 'Gulf Orange', vintage production colors that remained popular until recently, are now in jeopardy because Gulf Oil has become very proprietary about its 'colors'. The last 'Gulf Blue' factory painted production car, to my knowledge, was in a PTS Carrera GT. And that was over 5 years ago! I asked for it in a MY2010 gt3 a few years back and it was denied. Regardless of the 'feasibility' study listed in the above report for those 'Gulf' colors, I doubt they will be approved. So you also have to contend with all of these political aspects in the PTS process.
Finally, we know there are paint issues that appear in the course of production which eventually pushes a color into oblivion. 'RS Orange' is case in point. It was a popular & exclusive gt3 RS color in MY2007. But in MY2008, Porsche allowed any other 911 to be ordered in this color. It also used 'RS Orange' for its limited edition Boxsters and Caymans in MY2008. It was last used in PTS MY2011, before it was disallowed sometime last year (early spring of 2011). In its place, PAG recommends a new (somewhat similar) color 'Pastell Orange'. 'Signal Yellow', an old vintage early 911 color, was allowed to be ordered on one gt3 RS that went to England. Something happened (probably warranty issues) and PAG refused to do that color again via PTS. On the other hand, 'RS Green', introduced in the MY2007 gt3 RS, is still listed as doable PTS color to this day. That is not 'Signal Green', my all time favorite, but a color of its own, specially designed for that model and since somewhat popular via PTS in other models.
Still, PAG may play hard ball on any PTS request. They may ask for a color sample on a metal surface to be sent to them at Zuffenhausen for feasibility studies. This will most certainly apply to a color not listed in the Exterior Paint to Sample attached by the OP. So even though my '07 997S was painted by the factory in 2007 in 'Signal Green' via PTS, I don't see it listed in the OP's list. I have their 'colour code' from the inside gas cap, but that might not be enough. So they may ask me to send them a sample of that color before they commit. Perhaps it is also a liability thing. If they have a sample from you and match it, you can't latter claim that the color is not the right one you ordered.
PTS is a game for those with patience. But for willing to put up with the bureaucracy of the Porsche ordering process, the results will be so unique as to be worth the effort!"
So Steve, I am pretty certain that 'Gulf Blue' is a no-no! There is a possibility that 'Gulf Orange' might be still possible, perhaps. It might slip through the cracks at PAG. I know a dealer in Texas that ordered that exact color on a 997 around MY2007/2008 and they were successful in getting it (see attached photo). To my knowledge, this was the last 'Gulf Orange' ever produced for the US market! This hue was originally a 'special color' on early 911's starting circa MY1972. It is absolutely beautiful - much more vibrant than the no longer available 'RS Orange' or the new 'Pastell Orange'.
Saludos,
Eduardo
Vail Valley, Colorado
One of my dealer contacts gave me this PTS list about two weeks ago but asked me not to post it in the forums in case PCNA didn't want it widely publicized. But last week a 6Speed forum member posted the list in that forum, so I felt I could comment on it then!
Regarding 'Gulf Blue' or 'Gulf Orange', I do not believe those feasibility studies are going anywhere - much less on a Panamera! I am surprised they don't tell potential customers 'don't bother' right off the mark. Gulf Oil is increasing more diligent in safeguarding what they believe to be a trade-mark color scheme! If you were at LeMans last year, as I was, you would understand what I am talking about. They are making a fortune on clothing with that color scheme and now even got the estate of Steve McQueen to approved his likeness in many of the items! Not to mention the various race teams being sponsored by Gulf that are currently bathed in those glorious 'Blue' and 'Orange' color schemes!
Here is the full text of what I wrote about this PTS list at 6speed recently:
"Series production folks worry about uniformity of colors on the various surfaces that paint is applied on their cars - steel, aluminum, plastic, carbon fiber, etc. How well do they adhere & cover? What base primer works best with it? What are the fade factors for each surface? It is not a theoretical issue for them - they worried about warranty claims from customers years down the road and to keep up the standards expected of a well painted luxury car that bears the Porsche badge.
There is also some political play in the world of PTS. Certain colors that were introduced in limited production models (e.g. Pure Blue in the recent Speedster or the 'Sport Classic Grey') are not permitted to be ordered via PTS. Popular old colors like 'Gulf Blue' and 'Gulf Orange', vintage production colors that remained popular until recently, are now in jeopardy because Gulf Oil has become very proprietary about its 'colors'. The last 'Gulf Blue' factory painted production car, to my knowledge, was in a PTS Carrera GT. And that was over 5 years ago! I asked for it in a MY2010 gt3 a few years back and it was denied. Regardless of the 'feasibility' study listed in the above report for those 'Gulf' colors, I doubt they will be approved. So you also have to contend with all of these political aspects in the PTS process.
Finally, we know there are paint issues that appear in the course of production which eventually pushes a color into oblivion. 'RS Orange' is case in point. It was a popular & exclusive gt3 RS color in MY2007. But in MY2008, Porsche allowed any other 911 to be ordered in this color. It also used 'RS Orange' for its limited edition Boxsters and Caymans in MY2008. It was last used in PTS MY2011, before it was disallowed sometime last year (early spring of 2011). In its place, PAG recommends a new (somewhat similar) color 'Pastell Orange'. 'Signal Yellow', an old vintage early 911 color, was allowed to be ordered on one gt3 RS that went to England. Something happened (probably warranty issues) and PAG refused to do that color again via PTS. On the other hand, 'RS Green', introduced in the MY2007 gt3 RS, is still listed as doable PTS color to this day. That is not 'Signal Green', my all time favorite, but a color of its own, specially designed for that model and since somewhat popular via PTS in other models.
Still, PAG may play hard ball on any PTS request. They may ask for a color sample on a metal surface to be sent to them at Zuffenhausen for feasibility studies. This will most certainly apply to a color not listed in the Exterior Paint to Sample attached by the OP. So even though my '07 997S was painted by the factory in 2007 in 'Signal Green' via PTS, I don't see it listed in the OP's list. I have their 'colour code' from the inside gas cap, but that might not be enough. So they may ask me to send them a sample of that color before they commit. Perhaps it is also a liability thing. If they have a sample from you and match it, you can't latter claim that the color is not the right one you ordered.
PTS is a game for those with patience. But for willing to put up with the bureaucracy of the Porsche ordering process, the results will be so unique as to be worth the effort!"
So Steve, I am pretty certain that 'Gulf Blue' is a no-no! There is a possibility that 'Gulf Orange' might be still possible, perhaps. It might slip through the cracks at PAG. I know a dealer in Texas that ordered that exact color on a 997 around MY2007/2008 and they were successful in getting it (see attached photo). To my knowledge, this was the last 'Gulf Orange' ever produced for the US market! This hue was originally a 'special color' on early 911's starting circa MY1972. It is absolutely beautiful - much more vibrant than the no longer available 'RS Orange' or the new 'Pastell Orange'.
Saludos,
Eduardo
Vail Valley, Colorado
McKenna has a customer that has always ordered his cars in Gulf blue (w/ and w/o Gulf orange accents). I wonder what he's doing now? That seems like a lot of cars Porsche would be giving up. Why not just charge a small royalty fee to use it? People....
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http://www.356-911.com/shop/carforsa...rtibleD500.jpg
I am also surprised the PTS list includes a color they called 'Etna Blue'. It is in fact correctly spelled 'Aetna Blue' and it was a MY1960/1961 356B color! This hue has apparently become popular in newer 911's - I saw a .2 997 in this color at a Laguna Seca 'Porsche Corral' last year and PAG has it again on its 'approved' list of colors!
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1256538740.jpg
Saludos,
Eduardo
Vail Valley, Colorado
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From: Ponte Vedra Beach,Florida
1st - I love all of the blues. Eduardo you are a wealth of knowledge.
2nd- If I was going with that color combo I would do black carpets and a upper black dash. I love silver with red, but I don't like all of the red dash.
2nd- If I was going with that color combo I would do black carpets and a upper black dash. I love silver with red, but I don't like all of the red dash.
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I purchased a Spyder with the Carrera Red interior. While color is ALWAYS a personal choice, I have to say that after 18 months, I love the red interior and think it really makes the car (in terms of color). Saw a 981 over the weekend - Black with the red interior and I thought it looked great. My advice is to stick with the original plan - the only possible deviation would be a black top - other wise I think you've chosen wisely.