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Old 04-02-2023, 06:14 PM
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Default Known Issues with 981 Base PDK Cars?

I'm a 997 guy but the wife wants to trade in the 997.1 S for a Car she can drive that we keep at our vacation home in SF.
Looks like I can Sell my car add about $15k and get a decent 981 Base PDK car.
It's fun enough for me to rip through the hills and easy enough for her to drive around town.

What are somethings I should be aware of?

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04-03-2023, 05:03 PM
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Porsche Part Numbers are:
  • 9A1-106-338-00 Retaining Bar
  • 9A7-008-129 -00 Outer Hexagon Round (QTY = 3)
Porsche Dealer or several other vendors sell the part: .ECS Tuning, etc....




Old 04-02-2023, 07:50 PM
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Warped door cards (Pedro's Garage to fix), delaminated headlights, Cayman headliner are the ones that come to mind.
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If it's a Cayman, then Headliner Sag.

Plus all 981 need the cooling system support clamp on the water pump exit.

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Originally Posted by 981KMAN
Plus all 981 need the cooling system support clamp on the water pump exit.

Can you provide more detail? I don't recall hearing anything about this.
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So on the 981 engines the Water Pump exits to a thermoset molded plastic pipe. This molded pipe has a flange for 3 bolts to attach to an aluminum housing.

Due to the dissimilar material expansion rates, this joint will start to leak over time. It acts like a water pump leak, due to its location, yet its not. The failure rate for this joint was high enough for Porsche to design and produce a repair kit, consisting of an aluminum "C" Ring and 3 longer bolts to support the Thermoset plastic pipe flange. See picture below;



The kit installs in minutes with no need to disassemble anything other than removing the 3 original bolts, inserting the new support clamp and installing the new longer bolts.

Saves you from needlessly replacing a good water pump.




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Originally Posted by 981KMAN
So on the 981 engines the Water Pump exits to a thermoset molded plastic pipe. This molded pipe has a flange for 3 bolts to attach to an aluminum housing.

Due to the dissimilar material expansion rates, this joint will start to leak over time. It acts like a water pump leak, due to its location, yet its not. The failure rate for this joint was high enough for Porsche to design and produce a repair kit, consisting of an aluminum "C" Ring and 3 longer bolts to support the Thermoset plastic pipe flange. See picture below;



The kit installs in minutes with no need to disassemble anything other than removing the 3 original bolts, inserting the new support clamp and installing the new longer bolts.

Saves you from needlessly replacing a good water pump.

Sweet. Thanks for the quick reply. Now the question. Where can I find that part? A few quick searches are not helping. I don't see it on the relevant parts listings.
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Great info. I didn't get any hits from my Google search. Is their a part number for the kit and source other than Porsche?
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Suncoast has the feed hose but not the bracket.
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Porsche Part Numbers are:
  • 9A1-106-338-00 Retaining Bar
  • 9A7-008-129 -00 Outer Hexagon Round (QTY = 3)
Porsche Dealer or several other vendors sell the part: .ECS Tuning, etc....




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Here is an interesting Thread from Piston Heads on this part. Seems other 9A1 engines have a similar issue? Piston Heads 9A1-106-338-00
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Should you do this preventative so you don’t have any leaks or wait until you have a leak. Seems like you should change water pump at some point. I am only at 35k on my 14 base PDK. So far no issues, knock on wood.
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Originally Posted by 981KMAN
Here is an interesting Thread from Piston Heads on this part. Seems other 9A1 engines have a similar issue? Piston Heads 9A1-106-338-00
Awesome stuff. Thanks for the info. Crawled under mine this afternoon. No retaining bar, no leak, everything clean and tidy. Thinking I may add this during my belt changeout I'm planning soon.
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Originally Posted by Ernest72
Should you do this preventative so you don’t have any leaks or wait until you have a leak. Seems like you should change water pump at some point. I am only at 35k on my 14 base PDK. So far no issues, knock on wood.
I think it is a factory part on current models, and since it costs less than $50 it might be a simple add when doing your next oil change or at the Serpentine Belt change.

I would not change the water pump until it needs it, you may get 100K miles out of yours, so until its needed..... drive on!!


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Originally Posted by Kitc2246
Warped door cards (Pedro's Garage to fix), delaminated headlights, Cayman headliner are the ones that come to mind.
Not unlike other P-cars of this age, this is pretty much it-environmentally friendly glue, etc... Come on in, the water is fine!
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Originally Posted by Ernest72
Should you do this preventative so you don’t have any leaks or wait until you have a leak. Seems like you should change water pump at some point. I am only at 35k on my 14 base PDK. So far no issues, knock on wood.
Originally Posted by 981KMAN
I think it is a factory part on current models, and since it costs less than $50 it might be a simple add when doing your next oil change or at the Serpentine Belt change.

I would not change the water pump until it needs it, you may get 100K miles out of yours, so until its needed..... drive on!!

Great tip @981KMAN . I will be installing this little kit soon. I believe this plastic water pipe is the same one known for busting open without warning. I'm not sure of where it is known to rupture, but it's happened to quite a few cars. I replaced the plastic pipe on my car when I was doing some heavy maintenance about a year ago because I had heard about the ruptured pipes on several cars.


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