968 resurrection
#17
My son and I found all new hardware, bolted up all parts except crank pulley. As it turns out the pulley for the P/S was not with the parts that I got from the salvage yard. Went back yesterday, and searched high and low. No Joy.
Pulley is hard to find, over 120.00...Anyone have one they want to sell?
John
Pulley is hard to find, over 120.00...Anyone have one they want to sell?
John
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My son and I found all new hardware, bolted up all parts except crank pulley. As it turns out the pulley for the P/S was not with the parts that I got from the salvage yard. Went back yesterday, and searched high and low. No Joy.
Pulley is hard to find, over 120.00...Anyone have one they want to sell?
John
Pulley is hard to find, over 120.00...Anyone have one they want to sell?
John
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Deja vu all over again!
This thread matches my own resurrection from a few years back. Things you are going to want to verify:
1) Water pump free. I suggest just replacing it with new and a thermostat as well.
2) Starter wire from elec box to starter. They get frayed, and will cause a jump start when the large line is touched. If you remove the loom cover, you will see bare wire there. Fix it now by checking my thread on it.
3) Don't even try the tires after sitting so long. Replace.
4) Within a few thousand miles, plan on replacing the brake/clutch master and/or slave(s). I had the clutch master and slave fail, the brake master fail, and one rear brake cup fail within a year of driving it. Just be ready.
5) Odometer gear will die from disuse. Another tread to find.
6) While the water pump is off, backflush the engine several times. You'll find gunk coming out for a while. Use high pressure into the block if you can to circulate well.
Keep us informed.
This thread matches my own resurrection from a few years back. Things you are going to want to verify:
1) Water pump free. I suggest just replacing it with new and a thermostat as well.
2) Starter wire from elec box to starter. They get frayed, and will cause a jump start when the large line is touched. If you remove the loom cover, you will see bare wire there. Fix it now by checking my thread on it.
3) Don't even try the tires after sitting so long. Replace.
4) Within a few thousand miles, plan on replacing the brake/clutch master and/or slave(s). I had the clutch master and slave fail, the brake master fail, and one rear brake cup fail within a year of driving it. Just be ready.
5) Odometer gear will die from disuse. Another tread to find.
6) While the water pump is off, backflush the engine several times. You'll find gunk coming out for a while. Use high pressure into the block if you can to circulate well.
Keep us informed.
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the op is brave...
head off/hot tank.... looks bad enough on a Honda.
then you add rod bearings and really, should be considering doing the main bearings as well....
at this point, with the engine taken apart, you can see what's cooking.
then you're in a world of hurt sourcing parts from top to bottom.
if you're good with assembling motors, well, that's one thing....
if it were me,
I'd spend about $28 k, do an ebay gm/aluminum block/v8 and install a set of long 4th, 5th and 6th gears on the *transmission rebuild....
wouldn't be cheap, but you'd get 200 k miles and it'd be a blast.
*(w/ one of the 968 transmission gurus located right in eastern Mass).
head off/hot tank.... looks bad enough on a Honda.
then you add rod bearings and really, should be considering doing the main bearings as well....
at this point, with the engine taken apart, you can see what's cooking.
then you're in a world of hurt sourcing parts from top to bottom.
if you're good with assembling motors, well, that's one thing....
if it were me,
I'd spend about $28 k, do an ebay gm/aluminum block/v8 and install a set of long 4th, 5th and 6th gears on the *transmission rebuild....
wouldn't be cheap, but you'd get 200 k miles and it'd be a blast.
*(w/ one of the 968 transmission gurus located right in eastern Mass).
#24
hahah. If all else fails, I may go to the 8 cyl. At this point it is a bare bones resto.
Doc,
1) Water pump free. I suggest just replacing it with new and a thermostat as well.
A)Water Pump was new when they started the TB fail project 6 years ago. It hasnt seen use and spins free, I checked nut and bolt torque, all good.
2) Starter wire from elec box to starter. They get frayed, and will cause a jump start when the large line is touched. If you remove the loom cover, you will see bare wire there. Fix it now by checking my thread on it.
A) Hahaha Starter wire was completely bare inside of harness. I found that a few weeks ago. New harness to be made tomorrow.
3) Don't even try the tires after sitting so long. Replace.
A) Yea, tires are toast..
4) Within a few thousand miles, plan on replacing the brake/clutch master and/or slave(s). I had the clutch master and slave fail, the brake master fail, and one rear brake cup fail within a year of driving it. Just be ready.
A) Dont even want to think of that.haha . My 928 is calling me!
5) Odometer gear will die from disuse. Another tread to find.
6) While the water pump is off, backflush the engine several times. You'll find gunk coming out for a while. Use high pressure into the block if you can to circulate well.
Thanks for all input, It is reassuring to have people that have "been there done that"
It definately helps me get a warm and fuzzy about the progress.
John
Doc,
1) Water pump free. I suggest just replacing it with new and a thermostat as well.
A)Water Pump was new when they started the TB fail project 6 years ago. It hasnt seen use and spins free, I checked nut and bolt torque, all good.
2) Starter wire from elec box to starter. They get frayed, and will cause a jump start when the large line is touched. If you remove the loom cover, you will see bare wire there. Fix it now by checking my thread on it.
A) Hahaha Starter wire was completely bare inside of harness. I found that a few weeks ago. New harness to be made tomorrow.
3) Don't even try the tires after sitting so long. Replace.
A) Yea, tires are toast..
4) Within a few thousand miles, plan on replacing the brake/clutch master and/or slave(s). I had the clutch master and slave fail, the brake master fail, and one rear brake cup fail within a year of driving it. Just be ready.
A) Dont even want to think of that.haha . My 928 is calling me!
5) Odometer gear will die from disuse. Another tread to find.
6) While the water pump is off, backflush the engine several times. You'll find gunk coming out for a while. Use high pressure into the block if you can to circulate well.
Thanks for all input, It is reassuring to have people that have "been there done that"
It definately helps me get a warm and fuzzy about the progress.
John
#25
I miss spoke. He did leave the intake cover off, but the cam cover was placed overtop the head. hood was closed. I took head off and inspected, also inspected everything I could with a flexible fiber optic camera. Looks OK. I thought about doing the Rod and Main Bearings. I have never done that before, and dont intend to pull engine just yet. My 928 is sitting with the engine out now, so it is first on the list to make daily driver again. I have a few years to work this with my son.
Do I need to pull engine to do those bearings?
Do I need to pull engine to do those bearings?
#26
No. You can do it from underneath the car, supporting the engine from above. If you're going to do the oilpan gasket at any point, it's advisable to do the bearings at the same time. Other things to do "while in there" are motor mounts and oil pickup tube.
Edit: Sorry, rod bearings only. Main bearings require the removal of the crankshaft, if I'm not mistaken, and that can only be done with the engine out of the car.
Edit: Sorry, rod bearings only. Main bearings require the removal of the crankshaft, if I'm not mistaken, and that can only be done with the engine out of the car.
Last edited by mbardeen; 07-29-2014 at 04:31 PM.
#28
Wow, it has been a while.
I put the 928 back together. Crazy power and fun. It is my daily driver now.
968:
Son and I did the timing belt and seals.
built new starter harness
rebuilt or reworked injectors
timing with variocam
He bailed on the project so I let it sit.
NOT going to build it for him.
It is officially my car now.
time to get busy.
Just getting back into it.
Parts order went out today.
trying to find the hard water line.
then install the new harness.
Expect to really get moving on this in 2 weeks.
I put the 928 back together. Crazy power and fun. It is my daily driver now.
968:
Son and I did the timing belt and seals.
built new starter harness
rebuilt or reworked injectors
timing with variocam
He bailed on the project so I let it sit.
NOT going to build it for him.
It is officially my car now.
time to get busy.
Just getting back into it.
Parts order went out today.
trying to find the hard water line.
then install the new harness.
Expect to really get moving on this in 2 weeks.
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If you reuse the water pump, keep an eye on the weep hole for the first weeks of use. The shaft can corrode slightly, and you may see weeping. If so, plan a water pump.
The timing procedure for the balance shafts is Orwellian. Read the manual a few times, and you can use Clarks Garage website, to verify. Plan on motor mounts too. Will vibrate, and you will think it's the balance shafts, but likely the motor mounts.