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Old 03-03-2011, 08:16 AM
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Hi.

Is there something I can look for on a '92 968 cabrio witch tells me if it's an european or an US version?
Or are the two identical?

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Old 03-03-2011, 08:36 AM
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Euro spec cars don't have "bumperettes".

VIN on Euro cars begins with WPOZZZ, US cars don't have ZZZ but a combination of A or B instead, if I remember correctly.
Old 03-03-2011, 01:08 PM
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Also euro cars will have side repeaters and no 3rd brake light. VIN is the best way to identify though as all other factors can be changed.
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Emissions code found on vehicle information sticker:

C00 - Germany
C02 - US
C36 - Canada

There are others but those are the ones I know.
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Which side the steering wheel is on is always a good initial clue
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Originally Posted by jeff968
There are others but those are the ones I know.
There are few more than whats in this document but list is almost complete:
http://members.rennlist.com/vilhuer/options.pdf

US model has ROW ZZZ style VIN stamped into body in engine bay near right hand side shock mounting point. Only difference in it is that US and ROW models have different VIN sequence. This means 13th digit is different. In '92 MY possibilities were:

Code:
ROW coupe  ...NS80nnnn
ROW cabrio ...NS83nnnn
US  coupe  ...NS82nnnn
US  cabrio ...NS84nnnn
Same kind of difference applies to practically all models made. Each market has its own sequences and 13th digit tells whats what. It alone is enough to tell US and ROW model apart regardless if rest of the VIN uses ZZZ or not.

Black rear bumber pieces etc outside body features are not totally reliable way to tell the difference. For example those rear bumber thing were used in some obscure ROW markets also. For example cars exported to Saudi Arabia might have had them from production line.
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Originally Posted by Paul RN
Which side the steering wheel is on is always a good initial clue
Not really because both US & ROW (european) model come with left hand side steering wheel.The give away at first clance will be like mention (side repeater or what we call here markers) bumperettes you can't relied on it since lot of US owners do the euro signals conversion which elimate the front bumperettes.
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as already mentioned, U.S. cars have front and rear bumperette's. Euro cars have side indicators. J-Spec models have different taillights. Also, the U.S. only had 2 models, Coupe or Cab. No Sport, no Club Sport, No Turbo S.

All U.S. Spec cars came with a drivers side airbag, not all Euro Spec models did. Early '92's did not have a drivers side airbag, Club Sports also didnt come with an Airbag.
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Dino, Jeff, did any of the euro cars come without cats?
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Originally Posted by ernie9468
Not really because both US & ROW (european) model come with left hand side steering wheel.The give away at first clance will be like mention (side repeater or what we call here markers) bumperettes you can't relied on it since lot of US owners do the euro signals conversion which elimate the front bumperettes.
So you're saying if its a right-hand drive it wouldn't be a clue that its not a US model?
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Originally Posted by Paul RN
So you're saying if its a right-hand drive it wouldn't be a clue that its not a US model?
Originally Posted by Paul RN
Which side the steering wheel is on is always a good initial clue
Originally Posted by ernie9468
Not really because both US & ROW (european) model come with left hand side steering wheel.The give away at first clance will be like mention (side repeater or what we call here markers) bumperettes you can't relied on it since lot of US owners do the euro signals conversion which elimate the front bumperettes.
Take time to read my reply carefully .What I'm saying is ____THAT BOTH VERSION OF THE 968 ____ROW & US DO COME WITH LEFT HAND DRIVE STEERING. Are you still in the dark or getting what I'm saying???? Exemple of two row with left hand drive steering.

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Originally Posted by odurandina
Dino, Jeff, did any of the euro cars come without cats?
All 968's came equiped with a cat....including Turbo S models.

Also, ROW models dont have a 3rd brake light.
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Originally Posted by Fox944
All 968's came equiped with a cat....including Turbo S models.
Are you sure? I know PET doesn't list non cat version but both 928 GTS and 964 was available in some ROW markets like Saudi Arabia without cat as unleaded fuel was not available there at the time. Option for non cat setup was:
M150 Emissions systems removed for countries without unleaded fuel
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Originally Posted by Vilhuer
Are you sure? I know PET doesn't list non cat version but both 928 GTS and 964 was available in some ROW markets like Saudi Arabia without cat as unleaded fuel was not available there at the time. Option for non cat setup was:
M150 Emissions systems removed for countries without unleaded fuel
I have never seen a catless 968 from the factory. One of the biggest selling Points Porsche promoted with the 968 was the ultra clean emissions when this car was released. Considering that even the few Turbo S models made came equip with a cat, i doubt any non-turbo models were sold cat-less.

Although, you could be right on the rare Saudi Arabian spec cars.
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Originally Posted by Fox944
Although, you could be right on the rare Saudi Arabian spec cars.
Any 968 or any other '92-95 Porsche which were used in Saudi Arabia and few other countries when it was new had to be non cat model. Lambda sensor would not last for long with leaded fuel. Only question is if factory did non cat versions or if stuff was changed by importer. Both 928 and 964 were done without at Zuffenhousen production line. There were for example 117 ROW 928 GTS made without cats. Besides Saudi Arabia they were sold in Arab Gulf states and in RHD format in New Zealand and South Africa.



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