Fox944

As promised, Here are a couple of Dyno sheets. Both cars are naturally aspirated.

Pablo Crespo
245.6HP@6500RPM
230.7lb/ft@5400RPM


Dino Omeragic
245.6HP@6400RPM
238.3lb/ft@4200RPM
Check out that AFR


Pablo's car was built exclusivly by RS Barn

My car shares many of the same parts, and RS Barn is largly responsible for the final outcome.

A lot of trial and era, time and money spent to get these cars to where they are. We have learned many things and believe there is more power on the table. I'm looking forward to raising the bar even further and pushing the limits of this car while remaining streetable and without the use of stand alone management.

My car is 100% streetable with a very smooth idle. I am still running a Cat and big 18" Wheels & tires. Factoring in a 15% loss, my car is making roughly 282.5BHP & 274lb/ft up from 236BHP & 225lb/ft. A gain of 46.5HP & 49lbs/ft (not factoring in the added weight of 18" wheels & tires...so the gains are even bigger).


For comparison, Here is a Dyno sheet for a 968 with a fresh head, Header, full Exhaust, air box mod, & stage 2 chip. Same Dyno/same shop.

223.9RWHP & 222.3lb/ft

Jason Judd

Wow...great numbers guys!

Congrat's!

Lemming

Wow! Are those SAE corrected numbers? Also, what is dynocom, the shop or dyno model?

Chads996

Awesome - and how much did this cost you? for the extra horsies that is.

C.

Fox944

lemming, the dyno sheets represent Horsepower @ the wheels. The dyno shop is injection connection in p.a.

chads, i would need to add up all my reciepts. It would cost anyone else less. The know-how is now there and many of the parts are now cheaper then when i aquired them. Pete @ RS Barn would be the best to contact if you would like to build a streetable or track car this powerfull or more powerfull without going with f/i or building a 20-hour race engine.

I will be @ Hershey this april and will let a select few drive my car as well as take a few ppl for a spin.

here is what my car sounded like about 15RWHP ago. (turn your speakers down)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sHX5h6096Q

RolexNJ

I may be there and will check this car out. Sounds interesting.

stolarzj

Those are some impressive charts, Pete over there at RSBarn has really got these cars dialed in right now.

RolexNJ

Lots of good info for the community 'as a whole'.

Chads996

For years and years, everyone said these cars were not tunable. I have one thing to say...

OUT-FOCKING-STANDING!!!

Oh man...Can't wait to start playing with my 968 motor.

PorscheDude1

Dino,
That is just awesome. The sheets should hush all the naysayer's....

Fox944

I never bought into the myth's (claimed by so-called experts) that these cars were not tunable. The displacement is there. Its all a matter of playing with them and figuring out what works. BMW pumped 295HP out of the euro spec '95 M3 GT 3.0L & Acura made 270HP with the 3.0L NSX. I always felt there is no reason we cant approach those #'s with our 3.0L engines. It was just a matter of proper modifications & tuning. I'm hoping to get closer to the 300BHP mark....we'll see what happens this summer when we play with some more modifications.

RolexNJ

Forgive my total ignorance here with 968s, but what is an average BHP for these cars, and then with some mild mods? Educate me, as I am curious.

Fox944

a healthy 968 should be making close too 240HP as advertised (205RWHP). together with the air-box mod & a cat-back system, a good chip (Promax/RacerX/RS Barn) should give you a good 10+WHP gain.

After that you want to get the 4-into-1 equal length header & either a high flow cat or test pipe and maybe cams. with either or both, you will need a re mapped chip or a dyno tune(which will cost more money) to get the most out of them. After that, there are several other avenues you want to explore...but they get costly and you should deal with an expert on the matter. The proof is in the pudding.

I am very thankfull/pleased/excited to be where i am with the car and am hungry for more.

Lemming

I've posted my dynos many times, with pete's header, stage II chip, and open pipe I get 226-227 rwhp on more than one engine. Very consistent numbers with that setup.

RajDatta

Sorry, but those dyno numbers don't match the claims made by individuals that were part of that development team, so I call it bs. Anyone can go to a dyno and get scewed numbers. Looks like an overly-optimistic dyno. I am sure I would be starting with 215-220rwhp on that dyno with my stock car.

As per Wil Giovanni, he was able to develop the stahl headers and chip and Micheal Mount head to get 20rwhp. The chip alone gave 3whp. This is coming from the horse's mouth.

I have spoken with Micheal Mount at lengths as well and his claims seem to match Wil's. So, what should I believe, some dyno numbers without any baseline numbers or people that were the core behind all the development of these parts? I think, I will believe the latter.

Looks like you found just the dyno to get bragging rights out of. Hey, whatever rocks your boat. At max, you can get 20-25rwhp hp, which falls in line with what others have achieved (Tim Nagy).

If and when I am ready, I know I can take my car to Wil at Precision Motorsports in Califon, NJ since he did all the wrenching on this setup to begin with. Racers edge now carries some of these products at a discount. Micheal Mount also sells his systems for a lot less.

Raj