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Old 02-15-2020, 08:13 AM
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Plan is to return to 100% stock. Only needs a few little things. Stereo and wheels.

Also thinking of the Koni shock set up. Clubsport springs in the rear.

Car should be as delivered when done.
Jb - forgive me if you already know this, but if you add the M030 rear shock with the helper springs, it will require removing and reindexing your torsion bars. Just throwing the shock and spring package on will raise the rear ride height 2 inches or more even if you adjust the rear ride height adjusters to the lowest setting. This is not speculation, I have personally done this. The torsion bars are installed to a specific degree setting depending on whether or not the car is to have helper springs. I have all this info if you need and if you chose to do such, you should also change your front springs to the M030 part and they are all but impossible to find (NLA new). There may be an aftermarket spring that can be used on the front but if they exist I’m not aware of them.

You can add an aftermarket Koni coil over setup with springs, but it requires increasing your front spring rate for the car to handle correctly and you really should install coil overs on the front so the front height can be adjusted. I can walk you through this if you desire as can Jason @ Paragon Porsche who can supply you what you would need. But at that point you may be too far from stock to suit you. PM me if you want more info. I hope this helps.

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Old 02-15-2020, 08:46 AM
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Cliff,

I'm looking for OEM Boge shocks front and rear. Maybe I should go to Bilsteins? Would I need to reindex my torsion bars? Similarly, if I went with the Koni conversion set, reindexing needed?

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Old 02-15-2020, 02:33 PM
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Yogii - I choose to stay out of the "which shock is best" debate because everyone is going to have a different opinion. I doubt that there is anything wrong with any of the shocks that you have mentioned, you simply need to decide how well you want the car to handle and if you are willing to suffer some ride quality.

You only need to re-index torsion bars if you make a change to the rear of the car that raises the car more than the ride height adjuster can compensate for.

My track car is presently on a Koni racing package with spring rates soft enough to run Nitto NT01s, my former track car had the Koni sport coil-over conversion package and that is a great entry level setup for someone wanting to get a well handling suspension that remains street-able. You can choose to keep the torsion bars or delete them by changing the spring rate on the rear shocks. Jason @ Paragon is a wealth of information on this so I won't get into the details here.

I am occasionally asked to drive a full race 968 that has the full Leda package, 1000+ lb spring rates and full race rubber. IMHO it would not be a consideration for the street because the spring rates require full race rubber which are subject to degrading after several heat cycles and "brick up" quickly. This makes the car "wrecking loose" and a handful to keep pointed in the right direction. That same spring rate and shock package on street rubber would be a disaster.

We can talk more by phone if you wish. PM me.

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Congrats on scoring such a rare specimen. GL in sorting her out.
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Joe
That is a real cool car. Want to let you know that Jeffs buddy Greg Fordahl has a shop in Seattle that only works on 944s. I had the blue 911 club sport from Jeff. I wanted to start racing in PCA and I found the 944 a great tool to meet that goal. I liked the cars so much I brought a 91 944S2 over from Japan as well. I also just picked up a nice 968 which has the MO30 suspension. I think i have an idea of where a set of wheels may be for sale
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Joe
That is a real cool car. Want to let you know that Jeffs buddy Greg Fordahl has a shop in Seattle that only works on 944s. I had the blue 911 club sport from Jeff. I wanted to start racing in PCA and I found the 944 a great tool to meet that goal. I liked the cars so much I brought a 91 944S2 over from Japan as well. I also just picked up a nice 968 which has the MO30 suspension. I think i have an idea of where a set of wheels may be for sale
Pics of your 968? Let me know in the wheels. Still looking.
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Guys if you know anyone who might need 1 or 2 front 17x7 Cup 2s let me know these are in nice shape.
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Found a set of wheels. Sent PM
Old 02-26-2020, 07:53 PM
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Almost done. Just a little rear end adjustment, press a dent and final interior finishes. Car is as new. Can't wait to get it in the garage.
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She's a beauty!

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Stunning car! Congrats!
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Very nice! And I love the full cloth seats compared to the much more common inserts only.

One thing I'm confused about, you stated you wanted the car 100% stock so why change the wheels? The Cup2s (code 398) are correct for it, not the Cup1s (code 403).
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Very nice! And I love the full cloth seats compared to the much more common inserts only.

One thing I'm confused about, you stated you wanted the car 100% stock so why change the wheels? The Cup2s (code 398) are correct for it, not the Cup1s (code 403).
Love the look of the Cup 1. Not a fan of cup 2.
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Originally Posted by Jbarnes RS
Love the look of the Cup 1. Not a fan of cup 2.
Understood, but hold on to them, that way you can easily put it back to 100% original and be prepared for "no, it's the earlier maritime blue, see, it has the cup1s!"


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