brinskan

Hey everyone,

I recently purchased a 965 that had an X33 upgrade performed way back in 1993. I was told by the previous owner that the current intercooler, which I was told was part of the X33 kit (can't seem to find much detail on this kit online?) doesn't allow for the factory wing set up. Right now the car has a 3.8 RS wing, and I would like to put on something less aggressive.

What are my options? Is it true, the Turbo wing won't fit? If so, what will?

Thanks,

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Metal Guru

I think that the x33 cars from Andial had stock wings on them. Post a picture of your intercooler.

RichiRich

I have a 964T with X33 (from the factory) with a stock wing - not sure how the aftermarket X33 option differed...

olly964T

Thought the factory X33 package was different cams and ported heads. Woudl`nt have thought there was a need for a different intercooler unless something really major was being done with the engine.

dewael.eu

Standard X33 Factory power kit includes the following :

( I don't see a different spoiler )

911 Turbo 3.3 - with increased engine output

Vehicle Type 911 Turbo 3.3 - with increased engine output
Engine Type Type M 30/69 S
Model Year '92 (N)
General As of Model Year '92 (N), the 3.3 Turbo was made available with an engine with increased output under the Exclusive Special Option No. "X 33".
As the specifications of this engine have so far not been published, we herewith provide you with a brief description of this engine.
Description 3.3 litre Turbo engine "X 33" with increased output
Engine Type M 30/69 S
Displacement 3299 c.c. (3.3 I)
Output 261 kW (355 HP)
Torque 471 Nm (48 kpm) at 5,000 rpm

Scope of modifications

* Cylinder head, inlet and exhaust ports modified
* Inlet manifold modified
* modified camshafts
* Valve timing (setting) 0.9 - 1.1.

Modified Parts
Part no. Part designation Quantity
930.105.147.50 Camshaft, left-hand 1
930.105.148.50 Camshaft, right-hand 1
911.105.171.02 Spacer flange, left-hand 1
911.105.172.02 Spacer flange, right-hand 1
900.067.082.02 Bolt 4
N 010.183.1 Bolt 1*
930.113.025.03 Gearwheels 1
N 013.349.1 Roll pin 2
930.100.908.03 Gasket set 1
930.104.043.14 Cylinder head 6
Note: The parts indicated - without the * symbol - are only available from the Porsche AG - Kundenzentrum (Stuttgart-Zuffenhausen)!
Phone 0711-827 5290/5488/5602, Telefax 0711-827 6227, Telex 7252 5141
Engine Type M 30/69S With catalytic converter
No. of cylinders 6
Bore 97 mm
Stoke 74.4 mm
Displacement to 88/76/EEC 3299 c.c.
Compression ratio 7.0:1
Engine power to 80/1269/EEC 261 kW (355 HP)
At crankshaft speed 5,000 rpm
Output per liter 79.1 kW/l (107.6 HP/l)
Minimum fuel octance rating RON 95/MON 85 (unleaded Premium to DIN 51 607 only)
Fuel consumption (litres/100 km)
(to 80/1268/EEC or ECE A 70)
at 90 km/h 8.5
at 120 km/h 10.4
city driving cycle 21.0
Engine oil consumption up to 1.5 L/1000 km
Max. permissible engine rpm 6,800 + 100 rpm
Spark plugs Bosch WR 4 DPO
Plug gap 0.6 + 0.1 mm
Battery 12 V, 72 Ah
Generator Alternator, 1610 W / 115 A
Firing order 1-6, 2-4, 3-5
Ignition Electronic-map ignition system.
Caution: High voltage! Working on the ignition system and rev counter may be hazardous
Fan drive belt 9.5 x 776 La Use only genuine fan belts approved by Porsche
Drive belt for A/C compressor/alternator Polyrib 14 11 K6
Valve clearance (engine cold) Inlet and exhaust valves: 0.10 mm
Performance figures *
Max speed 280 km/h
Acceleration 0 - 100 km/h 4.7 seconds
Kilometer with standing start 22.7
* At DIN curb weight and half-laden vehicle without performance-reducing special equipment
Tire pressure - 911 Turbo S
(valid for cold tires)
Summer tires Winter tires
- front 2.5 bar gauge (36 psi) - front 2.5 bar gauge (36 psi)
- front 3.0 bar gauge (44 psi) - front 3.0 bar gauge (44 psi)

tasracer

Anyone got specs on the 3.6turbo S ?
Sorry for the hijack

RichiRich

10.4l/100km at 120km/h. When I first got my car I drove it at ~120-130 and never got close to 10.4, it was more like 16!!

brinskan

Thanks everyone for the details. I bought the car through a broker and feel like some of the information was lost in translation.

I have receipts that show work for installing a upgraded intercooler. But there is no details as to which one, or size. I will supply photos in a few.

dewael.eu

In which gear ???

RichiRich

I was actually the most cautious Porsche 964T owner there was on the first day of purchase (in my first Porsche) on my drive home (from the UK to Germany). A number of cars were passing me (at over the speed limit of course) and were probably wondering why I was only going at the speed limit.

There was mass temptation to drive a lot faster, but I didn't want a speeding ticket nor to crash the Porsche on my first day. On the second day, well, that was a different story on home ground!!

Metal Guru

So, it looks like the intercooler was not part of the upgrade. The stock tail should fit.

brinskan

Pics of intercooler:

brinskan

anyone?

Vincent C.

someone took the factory intercooler and modified it with a bigger core....i have the same on my car....vinnie

brinskan

Vinnie, so I take it the stock wing still fits?

-BS