Sway bars
10-24-2007, 06:15 PM
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Nope.
Basically you have a bar that goes from one side of the car to the other. They usually link the lower wishbones (or arms) on each side of the car together.
Basically it prevents there being a great difference in ride height from one side to the other. Hence the term anti sway or anti roll.
If the bar is thickened then there will be less difference in height when cornering. Thinner & there will be more difference in height from one side ot the other when cornering.
If you think about it going too thick will just cause the inside wheels to lift off the ground.
These bars will have no affect on braking or accelerating in a straight line on a perfectly flat road.
Basically you have a bar that goes from one side of the car to the other. They usually link the lower wishbones (or arms) on each side of the car together.
Basically it prevents there being a great difference in ride height from one side to the other. Hence the term anti sway or anti roll.
If the bar is thickened then there will be less difference in height when cornering. Thinner & there will be more difference in height from one side ot the other when cornering.
If you think about it going too thick will just cause the inside wheels to lift off the ground.
These bars will have no affect on braking or accelerating in a straight line on a perfectly flat road.
10-24-2007, 11:44 PM
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Elliott,
When you get your H&R bar mount it in place and with the suspension compressed, see if the stock front drop links work. If they don't, shoot me a pm or post a message here and I'll take my wheels off to read the part numbers.
When you get your H&R bar mount it in place and with the suspension compressed, see if the stock front drop links work. If they don't, shoot me a pm or post a message here and I'll take my wheels off to read the part numbers.
10-25-2007, 07:34 PM
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Sorry for all the questions but one more...what is wrong with the oem front links? Too short? I have never had to install new links with any other sway bar set ups.
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11-08-2007, 09:41 AM
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Wow, that is amazing because when I ordered mine they only had one rear bar left. So the front bar is a Porsche Motorsports on my car.
AG, When my latest Imagine Auto
purchase comes in, I'll start the project and then give you the part numbers off of the drop links. But if you are in a hurry, let me know and I can pull the wheels off and take a look for you...
AG, When my latest Imagine Auto
purchase comes in, I'll start the project and then give you the part numbers off of the drop links. But if you are in a hurry, let me know and I can pull the wheels off and take a look for you...
11-08-2007, 12:54 PM
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Wow, that is amazing because when I ordered mine they only had one rear bar left. So the front bar is a Porsche Motorsports on my car.
AG, When my latest Imagine Auto purchase comes in, I'll start the project and then give you the part numbers off of the drop links. But if you are in a hurry, let me know and I can pull the wheels off and take a look for you...
AG, When my latest Imagine Auto
purchase comes in, I'll start the project and then give you the part numbers off of the drop links. But if you are in a hurry, let me know and I can pull the wheels off and take a look for you...I found the collars and also located some RS drop links which I was told would work. AJ also said they had heard of RS drop links being used.
I would still take the part numbers for comparison sake when you get around to it. My install is a long ways off.
Cheers.
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11-08-2007, 09:33 PM
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Still waiting
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11-09-2007, 10:18 AM
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The drop links from a Carrera 2 Euro RS up to year 1992:
Front right: #964 343 072 80
Front left: #964 343 071 80
My local shop can get them from a US source for $88.73 each. Sunset can order them, but they have to come from over seas and they were around $70 before shipping. Shoot me a PM if you want the local shop's info.
Front right: #964 343 072 80
Front left: #964 343 071 80
My local shop can get them from a US source for $88.73 each. Sunset can order them, but they have to come from over seas and they were around $70 before shipping. Shoot me a PM if you want the local shop's info.
11-09-2007, 02:41 PM
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So these...
http://www.porsche964.co.uk/technical/sway.htm
Looks like I got the wrong ones.
So they need to be shorter than stock?
RT
http://www.porsche964.co.uk/technical/sway.htm
Looks like I got the wrong ones.
So they need to be shorter than stock?
RT
11-10-2007, 11:03 PM
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Standard factory Turbo 3.6 sway bars are 21 mm front and 22 mm rear.
According to the Porsche PET the standard RS 3.6 sway bars are 24 mm front and 18 mm rear.
H&R List 24mm (P/N: 70813) front bar and 26 mm (P/N:71813) rear bar on their website.
What's the best setup ?
I am thinking of upgrading my standard boge front and rear shocks with the Bilstein HD's and doing a sway bar upgrade but leaving the factory ROW springs.
ThunderC4S
According to the Porsche PET the standard RS 3.6 sway bars are 24 mm front and 18 mm rear.
H&R List 24mm (P/N: 70813) front bar and 26 mm (P/N:71813) rear bar on their website.
What's the best setup ?
I am thinking of upgrading my standard boge front and rear shocks with the Bilstein HD's and doing a sway bar upgrade but leaving the factory ROW springs.
ThunderC4S
11-11-2007, 09:07 AM
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The differences in the turbo front suspension mouting point necessitates a sway bar that is wider by an equal amount (about 25mm per side) to work correctly. The RSR bar from a 993 is 24mm and will work, that is what is on my car. The H&R bars that Elliot bought are for a narrow body and when installed in a widebody will cause the end links to at an excessive angle and bind making the sway bar infinately large. The proper end links are the RS end links mentioned above.
Elliot, are you still running the narrow body front suspension setup on your turbo when I drove it?
Elliot, are you still running the narrow body front suspension setup on your turbo when I drove it?
11-11-2007, 10:56 AM
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11-11-2007, 11:47 AM
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Both, but again, the narrow body bars are not the correct bars for a 964 where the suspension is mounted on the outboard position ie turbo, RS 3.8, RSR 3.8. They are too short by about 25mm each side.