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Old 05-14-2023, 12:47 PM
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Default I've sent my 964 turbo for tuning.

The idea is to keep visually stock as possible.
Expected power around 400 German horses ( around 500 American )



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On the dyno is the right way! Those guys look very legitimate to me!

I would be interested in learning before/after.

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On the right is Reinhold Schmirler from Rs-tuning.de it's best porsche engine guy in the world. Jurgen Alzen won 29 titles using his engines. On the left is his brother Gerhard.

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No chance to get 500 hp out of these without full conversion from CIS and much more.

Quite the supply of cranks and cams so I suspect you will be opening it up?

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what can be achieved on cis, bhp and torque with bigger turbo and fuelling

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Originally Posted by cobalt
No chance to get 500 hp out of these without full conversion from CIS and much more.

Quite the supply of cranks and cams so I suspect you will be opening it up?
Camshafts are installed now. Waiting for adjustment on bench.

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Originally Posted by 911 2
what can be achieved on cis, bhp and torque with bigger turbo and fuelling
around 420 European horse power and 550-650 Nm of torque

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is that with a change in turbo and fuel enrichment via the wur,
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Very curious to see the results of this. Personally I'm entirely satisfied with the power coming from my stock motor. Course I've never dyno'd her, maybe I should, Blam could have done something when he rebuilt it long time ago. Didn't write down part numbers on the invoice. Just says "Porsche - cam left" and "Porsche - cam right" etc. Why would he have replaced the cams now that I think of it. Was a bad shift rebuild with orig owner it seems, wouldn't think cam damaged more like busted valve stem but maybe it banged around in there enough or maybe one broke on each side etc.
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Originally Posted by 997 tt/rs
around 420 European horse power and 550-650 Nm of torque

So. you are talking KW and not DIN? That would put it around 563 HP SAE. On CIS? I don't think so. Everyone I have seen try it made power until it blew up. There are too many limiting factors from CIS and to achieve that much would need to go well above 1.1 bar and then the heads always lifted.

I will be interested in what you achieve.
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Originally Posted by wicks
Very curious to see the results of this. Personally I'm entirely satisfied with the power coming from my stock motor. Course I've never dyno'd her, maybe I should, Blam could have done something when he rebuilt it long time ago. Didn't write down part numbers on the invoice. Just says "Porsche - cam left" and "Porsche - cam right" etc. Why would he have replaced the cams now that I think of it. Was a bad shift rebuild with orig owner it seems, wouldn't think cam damaged more like busted valve stem but maybe it banged around in there enough or maybe one broke on each side etc.
sport camshafts....?
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is that with a change in turbo and fuel enrichment via the wur,
yes, turbo with 58mm compressor
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Originally Posted by cobalt
So. you are talking KW and not DIN? That would put it around 563 HP SAE. On CIS? I don't think so. Everyone I have seen try it made power until it blew up. There are too many limiting factors from CIS and to achieve that much would need to go well above 1.1 bar and then the heads always lifted.

I will be interested in what you achieve.
no, around 400 hp European
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And here is 4 valve head for air cooled
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How would I look / measure to determine with a valve cover off?

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sport camshafts....?


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