New "Texan" owner of a 150k+ miles 964
#31
Three Wheelin'
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#32
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I'll let others with more experience confirm, but I believe those are not recommended for street use.
It's too rigid and harsh for the street. Just too much vibration.
Also the stock engine carrier is not strong enough for rigid motor mounts (it might crack or twist).
Porsche RS, Wevo, and Rennline are all excellent choices.
It's too rigid and harsh for the street. Just too much vibration.
Also the stock engine carrier is not strong enough for rigid motor mounts (it might crack or twist).
Porsche RS, Wevo, and Rennline are all excellent choices.
#33
Three Wheelin'
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Thanks for your input 911Jetta! I bought them for $50 used so couldn't say no and I thought that the original ones may be shot after 150k miles...!
Plus, I race in Spec Miata so I am quite used to vibrations
Plus, I race in Spec Miata so I am quite used to vibrations
#34
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got it... but you might still have an engine carrier issue...
#35
Three Wheelin'
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#37
I put 993 mounts in my '92 - very pleased. Cost much less than the 964 ones.
#39
Three Wheelin'
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the Bad
It leaks more oil than I'd like so the top end rebuild is in the books. No oil from the exhaust but the leakage is there.
4th gear grinds so I am opening the gearbox and installing an OEM lsd while I am in there. It sucks as the 3-4 shift is where the joy is.
The bonnet has a ding and there is another one next to the sunroof that will need to be addressed (later - they were not mentioned though from the previous seller)
A/C works so-so.
Oil cooler / lines will need attention as they are leaking a bit.
It will need a respray
the unexpected good
It has a sport cat
It has Bilstein HD struts
It has had lots of maintenance (Steering rack, coils, starter, clutch and flywheel (why changing the clutch when your 4th gear grinds it's beyond me))
When valves were adjusted they also replaced the magnesium covers
The good
The chassis is rust free!
I unexpectedly fell in love with the slate grey / blue interior color!
Beside a very minor front accident, the rest of the car is virgin.
The engine pulls strong! I drove it around the mechanic thinking "if it explodes I am close by" and I trashed it around in a couple of corners: how fun!
There is oil pressure at idle and when pushing it it goes around the 4 mark. System is solid.
A TON of paperwork from the previous owner. Everything was documented.
The "why did you do it?"
I also bought a 993 the same week.
The plan
Step 1:
Top end rebuild to stock specs (maybe titanium valve springs)
Gearbox rebuild + Lightweight Flywheel
Step 1.5:
Sell the 993...can't keep them all...!
Step 2:
Oil cooler / lines rebuild refurbished re-something.
Step 3:
Suspensions (sway bars, coilovers, bumpsteer kits, bushings, bearings)
Brakes (rotor pads lines)
Step 4:
Exhaust / headers
ECU (probably already in step 1)
Step 5:
Paint job
Removing sound deadening material
Rollbar (in blue I was thinking or wrapped in blue/gray tartan)
Seats (Recaro Pole Position)
RS Door and carpets
Estimated completion date: July 2018
It leaks more oil than I'd like so the top end rebuild is in the books. No oil from the exhaust but the leakage is there.
4th gear grinds so I am opening the gearbox and installing an OEM lsd while I am in there. It sucks as the 3-4 shift is where the joy is.
The bonnet has a ding and there is another one next to the sunroof that will need to be addressed (later - they were not mentioned though from the previous seller)
A/C works so-so.
Oil cooler / lines will need attention as they are leaking a bit.
It will need a respray
the unexpected good
It has a sport cat
It has Bilstein HD struts
It has had lots of maintenance (Steering rack, coils, starter, clutch and flywheel (why changing the clutch when your 4th gear grinds it's beyond me))
When valves were adjusted they also replaced the magnesium covers
The good
The chassis is rust free!
I unexpectedly fell in love with the slate grey / blue interior color!
Beside a very minor front accident, the rest of the car is virgin.
The engine pulls strong! I drove it around the mechanic thinking "if it explodes I am close by" and I trashed it around in a couple of corners: how fun!
There is oil pressure at idle and when pushing it it goes around the 4 mark. System is solid.
A TON of paperwork from the previous owner. Everything was documented.
The "why did you do it?"
I also bought a 993 the same week.
The plan
Step 1:
Top end rebuild to stock specs (maybe titanium valve springs)
Gearbox rebuild + Lightweight Flywheel
Step 1.5:
Sell the 993...can't keep them all...!
Step 2:
Oil cooler / lines rebuild refurbished re-something.
Step 3:
Suspensions (sway bars, coilovers, bumpsteer kits, bushings, bearings)
Brakes (rotor pads lines)
Step 4:
Exhaust / headers
ECU (probably already in step 1)
Step 5:
Paint job
Removing sound deadening material
Rollbar (in blue I was thinking or wrapped in blue/gray tartan)
Seats (Recaro Pole Position)
RS Door and carpets
Estimated completion date: July 2018
Last edited by HDA; 07-10-2017 at 04:53 PM.
#40
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If the motor pulls strong I'd be hesitant to rush into a top end rebuild. There are a lot of "while you are in there" items and it can get expensive quick.
My car also had some oil leaks when I bought it, but I was able to remedy them and now the car doesn't leak a drop. What I would recommend is to get it up on a lift, spray off the lower engine with carb cleaner, then start the motor and let it run. Watch closely for where the oil is coming from.
I did this an found my front timing chain covers and oil bridges were leaking the most. So I replaced those gaskets and it addressed 75% of the leaks. Then I replaced the flaking magnesium valve covers with an OEM aluminium set and did the valve adjustment and plugs at the same time. That took care of the rest of the leaks. Now my car can sit for weeks with no drips on the floor.
Keep us updated with your progress.
My car also had some oil leaks when I bought it, but I was able to remedy them and now the car doesn't leak a drop. What I would recommend is to get it up on a lift, spray off the lower engine with carb cleaner, then start the motor and let it run. Watch closely for where the oil is coming from.
I did this an found my front timing chain covers and oil bridges were leaking the most. So I replaced those gaskets and it addressed 75% of the leaks. Then I replaced the flaking magnesium valve covers with an OEM aluminium set and did the valve adjustment and plugs at the same time. That took care of the rest of the leaks. Now my car can sit for weeks with no drips on the floor.
Keep us updated with your progress.
#41
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
Thanks MTR - we put it on a lift and while the magnesium covers were already replaced together with some other gaskets we ( me and my mechanic) believe that to fix this leakage it will require more...commitment.
And there is that 4th gear grind that is pissing me off badly.
And there is that 4th gear grind that is pissing me off badly.
#42
Three Wheelin'
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Updates!! I know you are all anxious!!!!
Well basically my garage is starting to look what in Italian we call presepe, which means "Nativity scene".
AKA: Accumulating parts. Ain't that fun?
Recently bought the following:
-Momo Hub (most important first )
-Koni + H&R setup. Yeah I know I know Bilstein are fantastic blah blah Blah and KW are the best blah blah blah
but I have chosen this setup because:
1) Under $1k
2) I had a GREAT experience with Konis on my S2000. Never liked the KW V3.
-OZ Magnesium 18” (Still undecided)
-CUP 1 Replica
-CUP 1 OEM in 7” and 8” (will be selling these)
-An engine from a 964 RS
-A 993 Varioram Engine
-A Porsche OEM short Ring and Pinion set for the G50 (Not the supershort).
-A G50 gearbox with OEM LSD. Will Keep mine as a spare.
Waiting for the engine and gearbox to arrive then I will start to put stuff together.
Next on the list:
- End links
- Camber plates
- Front Sway bar
- Headers + Custom exhaust
- Sell the 993 to finance this project lol
Well basically my garage is starting to look what in Italian we call presepe, which means "Nativity scene".
AKA: Accumulating parts. Ain't that fun?
Recently bought the following:
-Momo Hub (most important first )
-Koni + H&R setup. Yeah I know I know Bilstein are fantastic blah blah Blah and KW are the best blah blah blah
but I have chosen this setup because:
1) Under $1k
2) I had a GREAT experience with Konis on my S2000. Never liked the KW V3.
-OZ Magnesium 18” (Still undecided)
-CUP 1 Replica
-CUP 1 OEM in 7” and 8” (will be selling these)
-An engine from a 964 RS
-A 993 Varioram Engine
-A Porsche OEM short Ring and Pinion set for the G50 (Not the supershort).
-A G50 gearbox with OEM LSD. Will Keep mine as a spare.
Waiting for the engine and gearbox to arrive then I will start to put stuff together.
Next on the list:
- End links
- Camber plates
- Front Sway bar
- Headers + Custom exhaust
- Sell the 993 to finance this project lol
#44
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
This thread is worthless without pictures so...
#45
Three Wheelin'
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I also wanted to share a picture of the gas shocks - Koni.
They come with Blue H&R spring (if you know the rating please share).
Again, I was very pleased with the overall manufacturing and I liked how the diameter of the tube is "beefy".
Now looking into camber plates (pricey! - most of the online store sell them for $499) before putting the setup on. They are adjustable only in compression, which is ok for a fun trackday old lady.
They come with Blue H&R spring (if you know the rating please share).
Again, I was very pleased with the overall manufacturing and I liked how the diameter of the tube is "beefy".
Now looking into camber plates (pricey! - most of the online store sell them for $499) before putting the setup on. They are adjustable only in compression, which is ok for a fun trackday old lady.