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Old 01-05-2017, 03:45 PM
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Hi guys,

long time lurker here. In some need of desperate help on my 1994 C2. It recently developed this "flapping" sort of noise from about 2-3k rpm, under moderate load. It goes away at higher rpm and does not effect drivability from what i can tell. I've disconnected all belts in order to isolate a/c, fan, alternator, etc. I've also remove primary and secondary mufflers, but the sound is still there and very hard to locate. Oil pressure is great and no smoke from tail pipe. Next step is a valve adjustment and spark plug replacement, but wanted to ask the community first. Anyone ever experience something similar?

EDIT: Thanks guys. Was a hole in the cat. Replacing this week!

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Old 01-05-2017, 03:55 PM
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Does the sounds exist with clutch depressed (assuming 5 speed)

BTW, no link to video

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Originally Posted by txhokie4life
Does the sounds exist with clutch depressed (assuming 5 speed)

BTW, no link to video

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Thanks Mike.

Sorry took me a minute to figure out the upload process. Can you see the video now?

And yes, clutch in or out, car moving or stationary, the sound doesn't change.
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When I had this old fiat when I was a kid, it used to sound like that at low rpm, but at higher rpm, it smoothed out...
Turned out it had a burned valve seat... so at low rpm, no compression... but at higher rpm, just enough for the cylinder to fire....
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Exhaust leak?




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I suppose it could be an exhaust leak, but I've gone as far back as the primary muffler, so it would probably have to be in the heat exchangers. I looked around there and the heads, no broken studs or obvious signs of a leak.

thanks guys for the insight. Ill continue to battle this.
Old 01-06-2017, 01:59 PM
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If you're lucky a loose plug or exhaust leak but I suspect that is a broken head stud.
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I listened to the video -- I'm a bit at a loss at the moment.

Exhaust leak is possible, it almost sounds like when you are "accelerating".

You could check compression and leak down for sanity purposes easy enough.

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Originally Posted by ras62
If you're lucky a loose plug or exhaust leak but I suspect that is a broken head stud.
Would a broken head stud sound like this? I would think it would get louder with rpm instead of disappear? I would also think there would be other signs like smoke, leaking, or loss of power?
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Sounds like the kind of noise you'd expect with an exhaust leak at the exhaust manifold (heat exchangers) check for a leak there.
Edited to say I just noticed that you checked there, possibly if you've a leak there it's hidden by the heat exchanger casing around the manifold? Can you get someone to rev the engine whilst you're checking where the noise is coming from below.
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Not sure about exhaust leaks, but could this be engine knock? Engine knock is audible mostly under load and acceleration. I would put engine timing and a valve adjustment high on your list of things to check.
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was following this as I had a similar sound, noticed the update that
the sound was coming from a hole in the cat. converter? If this is
true, then need to take a look at it to make sure no holes....
Cheers!



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