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Old 12-17-2015, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Earlydays
Nope......mine is #0126
It's a 1990 C2 Coupe
Old 12-18-2015, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperUser
This might be true but I bet most of that 70% are Porsches built in the last 20 years.
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Old 12-18-2015, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by kreeshp
This might be true or it might be a marketing ploy, but Porsche claim that "over 70%" of all the Porsches ever built are still on the road today.
If you read your owners manual it used to say 75% but many car companies make this claim. If you have 4200 or so 964 US coupes and 30% are now gone to Porsche heaven that leaves 2900 or so. Then subtract all the ones that have been shipped overseas, have salvage titles, turned into dedicated track cars are now Singer or RWB creations the number drops more for stockish street cars. I would suspect that the number is closer to 60% for the 964. Blakbyrd on Pelican was scrapping out 964's to the tune of about a half dozen a month a year or so back. My guess is we are closer to 2000 964 C2/C4 coupes than we are to 2900 but that is just a guess.

Also how proportional is it to each model as well. I have no doubt that the number is far less than 75% of all 914's or 924's but would venture to guess that 90% of all 993's still exist. Considering more Cayenne's have been made than air cooled 911's and my 04 turbo is just as good today as it was when I purchased it 11 years ago. I have no doubt these models contribute to their claim more so than the air cooled or early water cooled cars.

Best question is which roads are they on and how many are still being driven. We can thank Rudy for single handedly preserving a collection of pristine examples of both the 964 and 993. One day we may be visiting his museum and all drooling over them as we did with the cars from the 40's and 50's in the 70's.
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Old 12-20-2015, 08:32 AM
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I'm interested to know the last VIN built in 1993 and what month it was. My cab is 08/93 last 4 our the vin are 0214. I believe 993 production started after the summer vacation in 1993?

Thanks,

JF
Old 12-20-2015, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 993PET
I'm interested to know the last VIN built in 1993 and what month it was. My cab is 08/93 last 4 our the vin are 0214. I believe 993 production started after the summer vacation in 1993?

Thanks,

JF
I have a 1994 c2 cab 0205
Old 12-20-2015, 11:54 AM
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993PET, when you have a girl like that next to your car, who cares about a vin#
Old 12-20-2015, 02:01 PM
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0433 - '93 C2 coupe Manufacture completion date 1/27/93.

I have also attached a copy of the VIN identification system from the 1993 fact book I have. There's also pricing for ALL MY 1993 models with options and a list of all "M" options. Porsche North America put it together for sales people and claim it's only to be used as a guide.
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Old 12-20-2015, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 993PET
I'm interested to know the last VIN built in 1993 and what month it was. My cab is 08/93 last 4 our the vin are 0214. I believe 993 production started after the summer vacation in 1993?

Thanks,

JF
It is a 94 MY US? If so the last vin should be 0283 although all the targas seem to be M718 coded would be interesting if your 94 cab is as well?

IIRC the factory was shut down in 93 for an extended period for the refit to a more modernized manufacturing assembly line. The days of hand finessing these cars was over. Many cars with heavy options were sent to the werks exclusive department and were not delivered until later in 94. I believe the line was not started back up again until late in 94.

Originally Posted by psiegel
993PET, when you have a girl like that next to your car, who cares about a vin#



Be careful some of the info in the sellers guide is incorrect hens the disclaimer. It is a nice novelty I have one myself.
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Originally Posted by cobalt
It is a 94 MY US? If so the last vin should be 0283 although all the targas seem to be M718 coded would be interesting if your 94 cab is as well?

IIRC the factory was shut down in 93 for an extended period for the refit to a more modernized manufacturing assembly line. The days of hand finessing these cars was over. Many cars with heavy options were sent to the werks exclusive department and were not delivered until later in 94. I believe the line was not started back up again until late in 94.






Be careful some of the info in the sellers guide is incorrect hens the disclaimer. It is a nice novelty I have one myself.
Yes my car is a 1994 Model Year US Cab. M718 code is built in 1993 but designated as a 1994? would this be noted on the build sticker inside the hood?

Do you think August 1993 was the last month of regular 964 production?

Thanks,

JF
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Originally Posted by 993PET
Yes my car is a 1994 Model Year US Cab. M718 code is built in 1993 but designated as a 1994? would this be noted on the build sticker inside the hood?

Do you think August 1993 was the last month of regular 964 production?

Thanks,

JF
Yes M718 code would be R coded tub P coded engine and tranny. Same as with the 94 turbos. The sticker on the inside the hood and in the maintenance book will show code M718 so will a CofA.

It would be interesting if it has the code that usually means there is a double count of these numbers but 0205 is quite high into 94 since so few were made to begin with.

I would need to source an old Pano article for the specifics but IIRC it was a long shutdown and a lot of employees were put on leave for a while and then had to be retrained in the new methods.
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Interesting discussion on the '94 model year with M718 codes. Does anyone know how many cars carried the R code for both chassis and engine? My '94 C2 coupe is an M718 car #279.
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Originally Posted by Parman
Interesting discussion on the '94 model year with M718 codes. Does anyone know how many cars carried the R code for both chassis and engine? My '94 C2 coupe is an M718 car #279.
The plot thickens.

It is very possible all the 94's were M718 coded. This would seriously cut into the total C2's made. The more we visit this the fewer there seem to be. Hold onto your 964's.
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1994 c2 Cab 0205

Old 12-21-2015, 12:30 PM
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Do we know what is the last VIN is for coupes?

Decoder...
Last 4 - 0312
Sales Type 964330
Model Year 1994
Block Flag
Blocking Date
Engine Type M64/01
Engine number 62R00635
Gearbox Type G5005
Transmission serial
number
1003894
Tire Code TOYO
General information
Invoice Date 1 1993-09-14
Invoice Date 2 1993-08-20
Number of "Z" Orders 1
Country Equipment C02 USA
Trading Partner 4300010
Commission Number 089081


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