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Old 07-05-2015, 09:33 PM
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You know the size of the bolts for the rear sway?

I got poly bushings on the way.

Front is gonna be another project.
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Default Replaced steering rack bushing, can't get aligned

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You know the size of the bolts for the rear sway?

I got poly bushings on the way.

Front is gonna be another project.
I don't know off hand the size...but a quick look in the pet catalog will tell you...
Old 07-06-2015, 08:27 AM
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Right on! M8 x 30. May order some new ones as a preemptive strike on my next project.
Old 12-14-2019, 10:55 AM
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Resurrecting this thread as today was my second go at fitting replacement rack bushings. New sway bar is going in so I thought I may as well do these at the same time.

However, things seem beyond tight and into the realms of incorrect fit. Notice in the second picture, the bush seems too narrow for the bracket. Has anyone experienced this?




Old 12-14-2019, 11:40 AM
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Yes it is very tight in there. Try to back the other bolt out a bit and put the second bolt in. It is a doable, but a pretty frustrating process a specially if you are installing the aluminum brace with it.
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Back out the bolts. Be careful not to strip the ones that don't want to thread in...if they don't go easy, don't go forward.

What you can do is put a jack under the rack and very carefully use it as a helper to squish down the bushings...
Old 12-14-2019, 12:40 PM
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My tech bitched about the installation as well. In fact he contacted Rothsport to make sure he had the right bushings. Seems Rothsport may have heard enough complaints and has since changed the mold and formula: https://www.rothsport.com/Products/C...Rack-Brace.htm
Old 12-14-2019, 01:26 PM
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As you are already working there, at same time i highly recommend to ad rack reinforcement part. This gives some extra rigidity to steering rack.

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Originally Posted by Bruni
As you are already working there, at same time i highly recommend to ad rack reinforcement part. This gives some extra rigidity to steering rack.
That brace is difficult to install in the older 964s because the hydraulic lines are in the way and need to be slightly bent out of the way. At first I was afraid I'd break something but it does fit with a little persuasion.
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Originally Posted by Marine Blue
My tech bitched about the installation as well. In fact he contacted Rothsport to make sure he had the right bushings. Seems Rothsport may have heard enough complaints and has since changed the mold and formula: https://www.rothsport.com/Products/C...Rack-Brace.htm
Interesting - I wonder which I have, as I ordered through Design911 in the UK. Anyway, leaving them alone today to reflect on their poor behaviour, hopefully they'll be more compliant tomorrow.......


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I believe you have the new redesigned one because it looks like from your photo that you have the red one. I think the older ones were blue.
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I got the blue ones. The bracket went in place quite easily, you have to tighten both bolts evenly at same time.
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Originally Posted by Marine Blue
My tech bitched about the installation as well. In fact he contacted Rothsport to make sure he had the right bushings. Seems Rothsport may have heard enough complaints and has since changed the mold and formula: https://www.rothsport.com/Products/C...Rack-Brace.htm
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Originally Posted by cjoenck
I believe you have the new redesigned one because it looks like from your photo that you have the red one. I think the older ones were blue.
The original ones are blue and are made by Ricochet. When I was doing mine, I called Rothsport to ask about their red ones and why they are priced substantially higher than the blue ones. They told me that they were redesigned to fit better due to complaints from customers. I was skeptical and ordered the blue ones from Ricochet through eBay, figuring out I was not taking much of a risk at $20. Well, what do you know, they fit perfectly. Nothing against Rothsport, it is a great outfit and I bought some of their products and will continue to do so, but this one is clearly not worth it and an overpriced copy IMO.

Originally Posted by willmip
Anyway, leaving them alone today to reflect on their poor behaviour, hopefully they'll be more compliant tomorrow.......
The poly bushing should fit well, but are a giant pain to install. I used a pry bar to gently apply downward pressure and create enough space to slide the bushings in. Then I pushed the rack back into place and started both bolts at the same time, going from one to the other in small increments. Take your time, back your bolts out, make sure the bracket and bushing sit well, and then put both bolts in and tighten evenly, you will eventually get it. As far as the brace if you go that route, it is also a pain to figure out if you have an early 964. It seems that it will not fit, but kudos to Rob for guiding me through it. One of the line is secured with a small bracket, and Rob told me to loosen it and then gently bend the line ever so slightly, and slide the brace right to left like a jigsaw puzzle. Bam, it fit!
Old 12-17-2019, 11:38 AM
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Well, I got there in the end. You can see in my second picture above that what was happening was the 'lip' of the bush was folding in under the bracket as it went on due to the tight fit.

A hairdryer to keep things a bit softer than the ambient 5C, and a pick to keep easing the lip out from under the bracket as it squeezed on finally did the trick. The bush
on the other end that did not need to sit inside a channel on the rack was no problem at all.
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