Great AMERICAN 964s for sale
01-10-2019, 05:37 PM
#4846
Rennlist Member
Couldn't see the price on my phone. Looks like a bargain unless there are major issues.
01-10-2019, 07:04 PM
#4847
Rennlist Member
I saw that car when it popped up on Pelican. Although I was a little surprised by the price, my first thought was the history on the car. From my experience, getting the background on a car from Japan is a little harder than looking at a Carfax. PORS9 did a story recently on a 993 GT2 street car that was up for auction. They was a lot of confusion on its history. There was talk about the car being wrecked and restored. If you can get the history on the car, maybe it is worth the money, otherwise, be very careful.
Exactly. I was also shocked..... Euro-spec, Sport seats, Amethyst, supposedly 54k miles, Cup wheels, looks relatively clean in & out, no discernable leaks, runs and idles fine, no smoke, solid car..... someone got a steal even if this was double the miles. It's not perfect but the price was. Ugh I wish I bought it lol.
01-15-2019, 04:21 AM
#4849
Drifting
01-15-2019, 03:11 PM
#4850
Three Wheelin'
Seems like a solid example. Interested to see where it ends up.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...11-carrera-14/
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...11-carrera-14/
01-15-2019, 09:37 PM
#4851
Seems like a solid example. Interested to see where it ends up.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...11-carrera-14/
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...11-carrera-14/
01-16-2019, 01:52 AM
#4852
Three Wheelin'
01-16-2019, 09:49 AM
#4853
Seems like a solid example. Interested to see where it ends up.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...11-carrera-14/
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...11-carrera-14/
01-16-2019, 09:53 AM
#4854
Rennlist Member
Can't figure out why that back bumper would be sagging so much. I sent it over to my body shop expert at ECR here in Atlanta and his guess was that it was a cheaper, aftermarket bumper. Said it looked "thin". Any idea what else could cause that? I assume the mounting points would all be good.
You're the seller?
01-16-2019, 09:56 AM
#4855
01-16-2019, 09:59 AM
#4856
Rennlist Member
Roger Dodger.
01-16-2019, 10:35 AM
#4858
Rennlist Member
Our friend selling the car has had two in the same color on BaT. I don't see the fuss about this car compared to the junk that has recently sold there. The car was clearly a driver that someone picked up cheap and reworked to like new condition. The rear bumper sections have a tendency to sag over time from heat. This is quite common. My 83k mile C4 had a serious sag but no rear end damage. The issue is when the sag is constant across the back vs this which is sagging over the plate area.
The windows out paintwork on that car appears to be quite well done. Something most should be happy with. After all this is a 70k mile driver not a 10k mile collector car. I am more interested in what was done to the engine. Clearly it was disassembled reusing the original parts but how it was done will determine how long the reseal will last. The fact is the early engines do leak eventually the later engines along with the 993 have far less history of oil leaks other than things like oil lines and other none engine related parts of the oiling system.
If the other 90's brought $50k this car should see a min of $65k more like $70k compared to those it would be a bargain.
Unless something has changed the 5% is capped at $5k. A heck of a lot better than the auction houses 10%.
The windows out paintwork on that car appears to be quite well done. Something most should be happy with. After all this is a 70k mile driver not a 10k mile collector car. I am more interested in what was done to the engine. Clearly it was disassembled reusing the original parts but how it was done will determine how long the reseal will last. The fact is the early engines do leak eventually the later engines along with the 993 have far less history of oil leaks other than things like oil lines and other none engine related parts of the oiling system.
If the other 90's brought $50k this car should see a min of $65k more like $70k compared to those it would be a bargain.
Unless something has changed the 5% is capped at $5k. A heck of a lot better than the auction houses 10%.
01-16-2019, 10:47 AM
#4859
Our friend selling the car has had two in the same color on BaT. I don't see the fuss about this car compared to the junk that has recently sold there. The car was clearly a driver that someone picked up cheap and reworked to like new condition. The rear bumper sections have a tendency to sag over time from heat. This is quite common. My 83k mile C4 had a serious sag but no rear end damage. The issue is when the sag is constant across the back vs this which is sagging over the plate area.
The windows out paintwork on that car appears to be quite well done. Something most should be happy with. After all this is a 70k mile driver not a 10k mile collector car. I am more interested in what was done to the engine. Clearly it was disassembled reusing the original parts but how it was done will determine how long the reseal will last. The fact is the early engines do leak eventually the later engines along with the 993 have far less history of oil leaks other than things like oil lines and other none engine related parts of the oiling system.
If the other 90's brought $50k this car should see a min of $65k more like $70k compared to those it would be a bargain.
Unless something has changed the 5% is capped at $5k. A heck of a lot better than the auction houses 10%.
The windows out paintwork on that car appears to be quite well done. Something most should be happy with. After all this is a 70k mile driver not a 10k mile collector car. I am more interested in what was done to the engine. Clearly it was disassembled reusing the original parts but how it was done will determine how long the reseal will last. The fact is the early engines do leak eventually the later engines along with the 993 have far less history of oil leaks other than things like oil lines and other none engine related parts of the oiling system.
If the other 90's brought $50k this car should see a min of $65k more like $70k compared to those it would be a bargain.
Unless something has changed the 5% is capped at $5k. A heck of a lot better than the auction houses 10%.
It does seem like the sag covers the entire rear besides the side fender areas, but I'm not exactly sure what I'm looking for to compare it against.
01-16-2019, 11:43 AM
#4860
Instructor
Our friend selling the car has had two in the same color on BaT. I don't see the fuss about this car compared to the junk that has recently sold there. The car was clearly a driver that someone picked up cheap and reworked to like new condition. The rear bumper sections have a tendency to sag over time from heat. This is quite common. My 83k mile C4 had a serious sag but no rear end damage. The issue is when the sag is constant across the back vs this which is sagging over the plate area.
The windows out paintwork on that car appears to be quite well done. Something most should be happy with. After all this is a 70k mile driver not a 10k mile collector car. I am more interested in what was done to the engine. Clearly it was disassembled reusing the original parts but how it was done will determine how long the reseal will last. The fact is the early engines do leak eventually the later engines along with the 993 have far less history of oil leaks other than things like oil lines and other none engine related parts of the oiling system.
If the other 90's brought $50k this car should see a min of $65k more like $70k compared to those it would be a bargain.
Unless something has changed the 5% is capped at $5k. A heck of a lot better than the auction houses 10%.
The windows out paintwork on that car appears to be quite well done. Something most should be happy with. After all this is a 70k mile driver not a 10k mile collector car. I am more interested in what was done to the engine. Clearly it was disassembled reusing the original parts but how it was done will determine how long the reseal will last. The fact is the early engines do leak eventually the later engines along with the 993 have far less history of oil leaks other than things like oil lines and other none engine related parts of the oiling system.
If the other 90's brought $50k this car should see a min of $65k more like $70k compared to those it would be a bargain.
Unless something has changed the 5% is capped at $5k. A heck of a lot better than the auction houses 10%.