TrackdayRSA.

I too just added a secondary OEM cooler. Kai recommended Gamroth- he supplied me with both the cooler and the custom bracket for fitment.

KaiB

Total wear on all parts Erick. You should be fine until you begin to stress your car more.

In your situation though, I'd certainly change out fluid at least twice a year, if not a bit more. Delvac please.

RSAErick

Thanks. Did you do this as a preventative measure; or were you experiencing over-heating?

A/C delete simplifies the install of a secondary oil cooler. I would have to think about whether I was willing to remove A/C. The oil cooler setups which work with A/C are more expensive.

RSAErick

Wow, I certainly haven't been doing it that often. I'll get right on that too.

TrackdayRSA.

I wasn't seeing problematic temperatures, but it worried me nonetheless since I am doing many more track days in the U.S. (further from home) throughout the hot summer months. As you say, since mine is a non A/C car it is quite straighforward to plumb in a new cooler. My decision came after having a long discussion with my mechanic....he declared high temps as his biggest worry.

KaiB

Beat into me by guys who know.

I change mine every 15 hours now (every other race weekend along with most other fluids and the anti-freeze in the radiator). It's certaily easy enough and cost is relatively insignificant.

swaini

hi,
thank you for the interesting thread. i live in dubai and mine is a semi daily driver. our summers are brutal, 48 celsius....118f.
i will definitely take the front bumper and got through what was advised above.
would an auxiliary oil cooler while maintaining a/c affect ac performance?
are auxillary oil coolers which fit parallel to the ac condenser the same size as the condenser or smaller?
for example:
http://www.fvd.de/de/en/Porsche-0/96...r_with_AC.html

thanks.

RSAErick

Thanks for passinig along the beatings...

RSAErick

That is a very interesting oil cooler. The price is very good, in comparison to some of the options available from RUF or Cargraphic for cars with A/C. I'd be very interested know if anyone else has any experience with it. It is difficult to tell, but it appears that the oil cooler may be a bit smaller than the other options that I've seen.

Anyway, from what I've read, installing an oil cooler does reduce the capabilities of the A/C; however, it was still functional for most climates. Dubai may be an exception (wow!), but I don't have any information to know one way or another.

Vandit

Great product!

ja78911sc

A/C is over rated--unless you live in Dubai

Eric, my guess would be that you are running around 230 to 248 on the track even with mild temps with a single cooler. This has been my experience riding with students in their 993's & 964's with one cooler. For reference the first single sold line is 194 and the second single solid line is 248.

This is my inexpensive set-up (in Porsche dollars) . Around $270.00 for Aeroquip lines & fittings. $275.00 for OE cooler. Modified a/c condenser bracket to accept OE cooler--welding required. I removed both fans to get the maximum air flow. I am running around 190 on the street & 200-210 on the track.

RSAErick

Good info. Lots of options to consider (in order of 'hot' to 'cold'):
1. Run only the primary (clean) oil cooler: At the expense of engine heat.
2. Run only the primary oil cooler with fog ducts added to increase airflow: Does anyone know how much cooling one can expect from this mod?
3. Add auxiliary oil cooler/bracket kit (RUF, FVD, Cargraphic, etc) to A/C: Very expensive kits.
4. Remove A/C and add kit or fabricate my own bracket: Hot driver (although not bad for short stints on track); Weight reduction; Kits (RUF, FVD, Cargraphic, etc) are still quite expensive; I hate fabrication!

The slippery slope strikes again....

Steve Weiner-Rennsport Systems

It certainly is, especially mixed with a good balsamic vinegar.

KaiB

Remove A/C - get coolshirt setup.

Thank me later!!!!!

swaini

thanks Kai, but a cool shirt setup aint an option here unless im only tracking... on hot days and hard drives the needle will hit 9 o'clock.. traffic will see it go up to 930. last summer it stayed at 8-830 no matter what i did, so ill clean up the gunk which i expect is there and find out... fingers crossed.