964 introduction from Jakarta, Indonesia
#1
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964 introduction from Jakarta, Indonesia
Hello...
I'm a new 964 owner, very happy & proud to be here on Rennlist 964 forum. My car is 1993 C2 tiptronic midnight blue with gray interior. Just have the car for a week but cannot stop driving her.
Here is the summary, odometer is showing 18.000 km but broken so actual mileage probably higher, AC works but not very cold, engine pulls strong, suspension is harsh & jarring definitely a lot more harsh than my 3.2, according to PO he just replaced all 4 shocks with KONI for about $2K, does it sound right? Overall I love this car.
Comparing to 3.2 G50, I prefer 964 from driving perspective as it is more modern with power steering and other comfort, however it is more complicated with many more electronics so maintenance wise it is more complex with more things to go wrong.
Here is my previous thread on my 3.2
https://rennlist.com/forums/911-foru...911-story.html
I'm a new 964 owner, very happy & proud to be here on Rennlist 964 forum. My car is 1993 C2 tiptronic midnight blue with gray interior. Just have the car for a week but cannot stop driving her.
Here is the summary, odometer is showing 18.000 km but broken so actual mileage probably higher, AC works but not very cold, engine pulls strong, suspension is harsh & jarring definitely a lot more harsh than my 3.2, according to PO he just replaced all 4 shocks with KONI for about $2K, does it sound right? Overall I love this car.
Comparing to 3.2 G50, I prefer 964 from driving perspective as it is more modern with power steering and other comfort, however it is more complicated with many more electronics so maintenance wise it is more complex with more things to go wrong.
Here is my previous thread on my 3.2
https://rennlist.com/forums/911-foru...911-story.html
Last edited by jorijori; 06-26-2013 at 09:03 AM.
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BTW, I live in a city that is not friendly to air cool cars as the traffic jams last the whole day in all corners of the city, but that doesn't deter me from driving her. Anyway I was stucked in traffic & the oil temp raised to near the red zone for about 30 minutes, should I be concerned? Here is news about Jakarta traffic in case you are wondering how bad it is http://www.nst.com.my/opinion/column...macet-1.303614
Per PO advice I opened the rear fuse box & wiggled the relays in order to activate the oil cooler fan & luckily it worked, but I read on the fuse box cover it doesn't say anything about relay for oil cooler fan, if I remember correctly, there are 3 relays (heater fan & something else). After that, for the rest of the day the oil temp stayed a tag high on middle mark. Notice that outside temp was 37.5 celcius (>110F) & I was driving with AC off
Also, sometimes idle stays at 1100 and at other times at 900, I read the normal idle RPM is 880, could it be the idle control valve?
Per PO advice I opened the rear fuse box & wiggled the relays in order to activate the oil cooler fan & luckily it worked, but I read on the fuse box cover it doesn't say anything about relay for oil cooler fan, if I remember correctly, there are 3 relays (heater fan & something else). After that, for the rest of the day the oil temp stayed a tag high on middle mark. Notice that outside temp was 37.5 celcius (>110F) & I was driving with AC off
Also, sometimes idle stays at 1100 and at other times at 900, I read the normal idle RPM is 880, could it be the idle control valve?
Last edited by jorijori; 06-26-2013 at 09:04 AM.
#3
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I think the oiltemp is OK from the outer temp and traffic you have. As long as the needle stops at 10 o'clock and don't go any further, and then starts to fall when the fan kicks in.
Thomas
Thomas
#4
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Welcome jorijori!
964 love stretches around the world!
Like Thomas said above, your temps are fine given your conditions.
I love your garage, and hope you're keeping the yellow 911 too?
964 love stretches around the world!
Like Thomas said above, your temps are fine given your conditions.
I love your garage, and hope you're keeping the yellow 911 too?
#5
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Beautiful Car!
I would agree, for the temps everything looks normal. Does the front oil cooling radiator fan (passenger side, front fender run) when it is hot? I would check to make sure that the relay is working properly. My only concern would be having to get out and "wiggle" the relay to make it come on.
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I don't like those 10 o'clock oil temps at all, especially not while sitting in traffic. It's a crap feeling to see the needle start creeping that high.
I'd first confirm the car is functioning properly.
1. From cold, does the temp rise to about 8 o'clock then drop back down, indicating the thermostat is opening up properly?
2. Does the fan on the front oil cooler come on somewhere between 9 and 10 o'clock?
More troubleshooting here.
http://p-car.com/diy/fan/
After you confirm everything is working right, I'd consider the oil cooler resistor mod to lower the fan engagement point.
https://rennlist.com/rennforums/showthread.php?t=639980
After this mod, even of I sit at idle for 20-30mins in nearly 100 fahrenheit outside temps, the oil temp stays between 8 and 9 o'clock.
I'd first confirm the car is functioning properly.
1. From cold, does the temp rise to about 8 o'clock then drop back down, indicating the thermostat is opening up properly?
2. Does the fan on the front oil cooler come on somewhere between 9 and 10 o'clock?
More troubleshooting here.
http://p-car.com/diy/fan/
After you confirm everything is working right, I'd consider the oil cooler resistor mod to lower the fan engagement point.
https://rennlist.com/rennforums/showthread.php?t=639980
After this mod, even of I sit at idle for 20-30mins in nearly 100 fahrenheit outside temps, the oil temp stays between 8 and 9 o'clock.
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Welcome! Looks like a great car. As Vandt said I would confirm your oil cooler fan and temp sensor are working properly. I would also verify that your oil cooler is clear of dirt and debris.
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Well the needle didn't stop at 10 o'clock, it kept creeping up as the oil fan didn't work but luckily I reached my destination before it got to red zone. Thanks...
#11
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Yes I'm keeping it with a hope that one day I will backdate it to a long hood as I fell head over heels now for one. Over here Porsche was not officially for sale until 2003 (996 era).
#12
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No it did not prior to wiggling the relays in the rear fuse cover but it did afterwards. My question where is the oil fan relay located?
I would agree, for the temps everything looks normal. Does the front oil cooling radiator fan (passenger side, front fender run) when it is hot? I would check to make sure that the relay is working properly. My only concern would be having to get out and "wiggle" the relay to make it come on.
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Thanks, I waited 3 years for this car & at the time almost bought it off from PO but didn't happen, this time almost didn't happen but luckily it did, but price has risen significantly though. Note total 964 in my country probably is less than 10 as it was not for sale here, those that made came thru diplomatic channel.
#14
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Thanks, here is my answers
I don't like those 10 o'clock oil temps at all, especially not while sitting in traffic. It's a crap feeling to see the needle start creeping that high.
I'd first confirm the car is functioning properly.
1. From cold, does the temp rise to about 8 o'clock then drop back down, indicating the thermostat is opening up properly?
No, it will rise to 8.. 9.. then stops at 9.30 this is where I think the oil fan kicks in
2. Does the fan on the front oil cooler come on somewhere between 9 and 10 o'clock?
yes
More troubleshooting here.
http://p-car.com/diy/fan/
After you confirm everything is working right, I'd consider the oil cooler resistor mod to lower the fan engagement point.
https://rennlist.com/rennforums/showthread.php?t=639980
My plan is to hard-wire oil fan to rear wiper switch like my 3.2 this way I can start it manually
After this mod, even of I sit at idle for 20-30mins in nearly 100 fahrenheit outside temps, the oil temp stays between 8 and 9 o'clock.
I'd first confirm the car is functioning properly.
1. From cold, does the temp rise to about 8 o'clock then drop back down, indicating the thermostat is opening up properly?
No, it will rise to 8.. 9.. then stops at 9.30 this is where I think the oil fan kicks in
2. Does the fan on the front oil cooler come on somewhere between 9 and 10 o'clock?
yes
More troubleshooting here.
http://p-car.com/diy/fan/
After you confirm everything is working right, I'd consider the oil cooler resistor mod to lower the fan engagement point.
https://rennlist.com/rennforums/showthread.php?t=639980
My plan is to hard-wire oil fan to rear wiper switch like my 3.2 this way I can start it manually
After this mod, even of I sit at idle for 20-30mins in nearly 100 fahrenheit outside temps, the oil temp stays between 8 and 9 o'clock.