clinchy993

Frank so sorry to hear you have troubles and its only natural to fear the worst

Dont make any rash descisions lots of options open to you for the next evolution of your car

Vic_S

Just reading this Frank...hope it turns out not to be serious. Fingers crossed for you!

But Tony is right. If the diagnosis recommends a full rebuild; much as we all rate GTone, I wouldn't rush in to going ahead with them. Take some time out to consider all the options, as there are many good engine builders out there & I think VR6er was saying on Sunday that he knew of a good used motor...

All the best

V

Nski

Sorry to hear about this Frank, am sure you will be in safe hands with the expert. Hopefully it wont be anything serious. Keep us informed, our sympathy is with you.

Norm

Porsche964FP

Thank you for the words of encouragement.

Thanks Gary.

Cheers.

Agreed, I think Peter will understand I'll be shopping around.

Cheers, mate.

boxsey911

I agree with the others that have said that there is too much speculation going on about what it is and that a thorough investigation is needed. This at least means getting it on a ramp to check the exhaust and to pull the valve covers. If they find something simple then that will be a result. If they find that it's something like a broken head stud or two then you have to decide where to go next.

For me fixing it would be the only option even if it means a full rebuild because you've already invested so much in the car already. Cutting your losses by selling would be both painful to the emotions and the wallet because people will only want to pay bottom dollar for a 964 that needs immediate engine work.

Although it costs a lot, a full rebuild will add value to the car. It's also worth considering that having a consistent history with a good 911 specialist will also add value to the car. Therefore I would use your current guys (GTone?) rather than shopping around to save a few hundred quid.

We all go through lows with our 964s but we usually get over it quickly and do the right thing.

clinchy993

There are quite a few 993 engines for sale at the moment a nice varioram 285 bhp upgrade would be the nuts ! That's what Fuch has in my old 964 I think

deutschland-dobson

So sorry to hear this Frank, but fingers crossed for you

Just for my own info how much roughly would a second hand 993 varioram cost and what would be rough fitting costs?

Thanks
Chris

Babalouie

Got my fingers (and toes) crossed for ya, Frank

sml

sorry for the bad news .... but good luck with the repairs

just remember that in the long term, it should be cheaper to own compared to your average family car (ie 964 repairs $ < family car depreciation $)

oldtimer

I'd echo all that boxsey has put down this morning.
GTOne sorted out Mel Spear's 964Cup engine last year when it had a bottom end problem , they performed well on analysis and execution so dont see why you would go elsewhere except for a second opinion . I'm talking from perspective of someone who values the experience of using these cars on circuit and wants a strong reliable engine .
For a second opinion I'd go to Steve Winter at Jaz ( Wembley )
HTH

Porsche964FP

Thanks gents, you're helping me keep rational. I feel like a apart of me is missing. We'll see when the diagnosis comes through. At this stage I am just planning for the worst case scenario so that if it turns out to be 'nothing' it'll be a nice surprise.

In the spirit of preparing (If I do stick with the car) I've spoken to GTOne, JAZ, 9M. I'll either do it right or not at all.

We're on the same page. I just can't face selling - the cars become a part of me and what I believe in. Sad git I know! If I sold it would be to buy a reasonable cheap car, my Porsche days would be over for the foreseeable future. Buying another Porsche that I don't know the history of would be starting all over again. It's either fix or get out. The stronger part of me is saying don't quit now, you're too far invested - blood, sweat, tears and money.

I like GTOne very much - they have been great with me. It's just I'm not sure about them when it comes to engine upgrades if I do rebuild. Following a long chat with Peter I felt confident about rebuilding stock with Motec, however their experience with engine component upgrades sounds less extensive than others. Messrs 9M, JAZ for example.

I don't know - as said this is all speculative. I'm here for advice - this forum is essential to me, especially under these potential circumstances.

It's a great idea, but I think if I was to keep the car it's just not the root for me.

Thanks for the kind words Chris.

Thanks.

True but at this stage that's seriously long term...

I spoke to Peter again about Mel's cup car yesterday - it's a definite plus.

Cheeksyboy

Frank......don't fear the worst until it's reality.....then find someone who can speak French and get them to help you find a way out of your problem.....it worked for me!!!!

Seriously gutted to hear this news, as Betty was on form at Spa....

GTOne seem to have been honest with you from the get-go, so whatever they diagnose will not be just to make a few £, but will be an honest appraisal of what's required to get Betty purring again!

I too would not think of selling the car, especially with so much time and investment put into it......you'll rarely if ever get it back at resale.

Cheeksyboy

PM sent

boxsey911

...but I thought we'd already agreed between us all, over beers in Belgium, that we'd give you £17K for yours

John Boggiano

Crikey. First time I look in, I see Frank's car is making a clicking noise. Next time I look in it sounds like it's a write-off! :-)

Chin up. It's still just a clicking noise.