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Old 03-21-2012, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Lorenfb
When replacing an ignition coil, use a replacement coil which has the overall
electrical characteristics as the original one, i.e. primary resistance, primary inductance, and turns ratio. A number of commonly available coils with their characteristics are presented here under 'Typical Ignition Coil Values'; Diagnostic
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Loren, thanks for the input but.... where is "here" in this context?

TIA!
Old 03-21-2012, 09:40 AM
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Nevermind, "Here" is HERE.

From Loren's page:

"Typical Ignition Coil Values

Bosch TCI (black/silver) - R(primary) = .70 ohms, R(secondary) = 6200 ohms, N = 90, L(primary) = 3.6 mH, L(secondary) = 30 H, ~ 60 mjoules @ 6K RPM - 6 cylinders TCI

Bosch Blue Coil - R(primary) = 3.5 ohms, R(secondary) = 8800 ohms, N = 65, L(primary) = 12 mH, L(secondary) = 50 H, ~ 30 mjoules @ 6K RPM - 6 cylinders TCI

Bosch CDI (small black) - R(primary) = .30 ohms, R(secondary) = 700 ohms, N = 78, L(primary) = .20 mH, L(secondary) = 1.2 H

Bosch CDI (small silver) - R(primary) = .70 ohms, R(secondary) = 720 ohms, N = 63, L(primary) = .40 mH, L(secondary) = 1.6 H

MSD Blaster (8222) - R(primary) = 1.1 ohms, R(secondary) = 4700 ohms, N = 95, L(primary) = 4.2 mH, L(secondary) = 38 H

Perma-Tune - R(primary) = .90 ohms, R(secondary) = 10000 ohms, N = 125, L(primary) = 4.7 mH, L(secondary) = 74 H"

Any idea what the specs on the 993 coils are?
Old 03-21-2012, 02:23 PM
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I guess 993 coils should have the same values as 964 Bosch TCI coils.
Old 03-21-2012, 11:42 PM
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"I guess 993 coils should have the same values as 964 Bosch TCI coils."

Yes.

The blue coils will mostly likely provide inadequate spark & energy at the higher RPMs.
Old 03-22-2012, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Lorenfb
The blue coils will mostly likely provide inadequate spark & energy at the higher RPMs.
mb911, buy the silver coils (Pelican) and save your receipt which most likely you will not need based on recent feedback in reference to the silver coils.
Old 03-22-2012, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Lorenfb
"I guess 993 coils should have the same values as 964 Bosch TCI coils."

Yes.

There you go. Confirmation from someone who should know.

Thank you Loren.
Old 03-22-2012, 01:26 PM
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Bosch silver (0055) is around $61 apiece at AutoHaus AZ, free shipping... anybody know of a better deal?
Old 03-22-2012, 05:02 PM
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wow 993 coils are confirmed ... after all these years .. finally confirmed! yay! never thought I would see the day! thanks loren
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Originally Posted by sml
wow 993 coils are confirmed ... after all these years .. finally confirmed! yay! never thought I would see the day! thanks loren
Any advantage to the spendier 993 coils (looks like they might bolt on easier)?
Old 03-22-2012, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by stinkydog
Any advantage to the spendier 993 coils (looks like they might bolt on easier)?
loren is the expert.

this is based on no real facts apart from no-one reporting problems based on my memory in the last year or two, but i tend to think the silver coil thing is a myth anyway, so probably not ... but having 993 coils in the back would be a nice feeling
Old 03-22-2012, 10:29 PM
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"but i tend to think the silver coil thing is a myth anyway"

Actually there were problems, but that was over five plus years ago.
I've verified a number of situations back then. Most likely Bosch fixed
the problem, as none have had problems for many years now.
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Originally Posted by sml
wow 993 coils are confirmed ... after all these years .. finally confirmed! yay! never thought I would see the day! thanks loren
Is that means 993 coils are direct fit to 964? Thanks
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"Is that means 993 coils are direct fit to 964?"

Yes.
Old 03-23-2012, 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Lorenfb
"Is that means 993 coils are direct fit to 964?"
Yes.
I think this means from an electrical perspective.

Physically it looks like there are a few tweaks/custom brackets perhaps? Anyone know?
Old 03-23-2012, 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Lorenfb
"Is that means 993 coils are direct fit to 964?"

Yes.
Thanks.


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