Singer 911 - base most of the future Singer 911 production on the 964 chassis
11-11-2015, 01:26 PM
#76
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Technically, they don't sell these as new cars but rather as customer cars being restored, reimagined and reborn as they put it (although if it were me, I'd reimagine it before restoring it 
). Singer is not a manufacturer, just a "restoration shop". Same as you local mechanic if you think about it, just a lot more expensive. 
Here is the disclaimer on their site:
Singer Vehicle Design (SVD or Singer) restores and modifies existing Porsche® automobiles for its customers. Singer does not manufacture or sell automobiles. [...] The product of Singer’s painstaking effort is a Porsche 911® restored and reimagined by Singer.
). Singer is not a manufacturer, just a "restoration shop". Same as you local mechanic if you think about it, just a lot more expensive. Here is the disclaimer on their site:
Singer Vehicle Design (SVD or Singer) restores and modifies existing Porsche® automobiles for its customers. Singer does not manufacture or sell automobiles. [...] The product of Singer’s painstaking effort is a Porsche 911® restored and reimagined by Singer.
I have a decent imagination and access to a bunch of early 911 tubs concours quality paint shop and protomotive engine builder. Maybe we should collaborate and consider reimagining them instead. Or maybe all those 993's out there for sale would give us endless number of tubs.
Very nice. Just curious, are the cutouts on teh center tunnel for access or something else?
11-11-2015, 01:58 PM
#77
Sorry I have to laugh. I have no doubt in a few years we will be hearing about owners having issues selling or registering these in some states.
I have a decent imagination and access to a bunch of early 911 tubs concours quality paint shop and protomotive engine builder. Maybe we should collaborate and consider reimagining them instead. Or maybe all those 993's out there for sale would give us endless number of tubs.
Very nice. Just curious, are the cutouts on teh center tunnel for access or something else?
I have a decent imagination and access to a bunch of early 911 tubs concours quality paint shop and protomotive engine builder. Maybe we should collaborate and consider reimagining them instead. Or maybe all those 993's out there for sale would give us endless number of tubs.
Very nice. Just curious, are the cutouts on teh center tunnel for access or something else?
Thanks
Marc
11-11-2015, 01:59 PM
#78
I have no doubt in a few years we will be hearing about owners having issues selling or registering these in some states.
11-11-2015, 02:00 PM
#79
11-11-2015, 02:21 PM
#80
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11-11-2015, 02:40 PM
#81
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http://www.caranddriver.com/features...oundup-feature
https://www.carthrottle.com/post/sin...e-your-weapon/
11-12-2015, 11:24 AM
#83
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11-12-2015, 12:03 PM
#84
Takes all types...
Most of my buddies that are collectors have a dealer license themselves. They hardly ever "trade." Instead, they have agents that get rid of cars for them kind of like a consignment deal. From what I understand, 99% of the time it's private.
02-03-2016, 11:54 AM
#85
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Thread Starter
It's about time Singer made a C4
http://www.theverge.com/2016/2/2/108...ion-test-drive
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The lavender 911 I’m testing has the big brakes, sports seats, roll bar, and leather-swathed everything. The white leather weave which coats the interior of the doors, console, and seatbacks was done in Tuscany. But the most unique element is mechanical: it is Singer’s first-ever all-wheel-drive restoration.
AWD seems rather antithetical to Singer’s ethos, even though various Porsches have driven all four wheels for generations. Happily a simple, almost dumb kind of AWD was chosen, a system used in the 993 era car, utilizing a viscous coupling unit rather than a sophisticated electronic brain. It’s a part-time system, only powering the front axle when the rear wheels slip. Most of the time you’d never need it.
Except, perhaps, on a really curvy road on a day when it’s crapping down rain.
AWD seems rather antithetical to Singer’s ethos, even though various Porsches have driven all four wheels for generations. Happily a simple, almost dumb kind of AWD was chosen, a system used in the 993 era car, utilizing a viscous coupling unit rather than a sophisticated electronic brain. It’s a part-time system, only powering the front axle when the rear wheels slip. Most of the time you’d never need it.
Except, perhaps, on a really curvy road on a day when it’s crapping down rain.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/2/2/108...ion-test-drive
And so I lose my fears, settling in, and the car settles too as I drive it harder. It’s fine toodling along, but the car likes gas. I occasionally feel the AWD engage as I come out of a slick corner. Helpful, but mostly unnecessary. I’d surely opt for a standard rear-wheel drive. Still, unlike most AWD cars, there’s no numbness in the steering wheel as the front end loads up. No dreadful understeer. In fact, this 911 turns into turns more eagerly than any I’ve ever driven. Light, fast, able.
The company has been around since 2008 and thus far has 110 customer orders, with 42 restorations completed.
02-03-2016, 12:44 PM
#86
Nordschleife Master
02-03-2016, 01:20 PM
#87
Racer
Love the Singer cars....all of them.
One question though, after looking through tons of pictures I haven't ever seen one of a stripped down tub with all of the bare carbon fiber fenders, hood, etc before it goes to paint.
Curious about how/if they're replacing the rear quarters with carbon too and more importantly, how are they bonding it to the existing steel?
Something like this:
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Here is a blog showing kind of what I'm looking for.
Thanks!
One question though, after looking through tons of pictures I haven't ever seen one of a stripped down tub with all of the bare carbon fiber fenders, hood, etc before it goes to paint.
Curious about how/if they're replacing the rear quarters with carbon too and more importantly, how are they bonding it to the existing steel?
Something like this:
Here is a blog showing kind of what I'm looking for.
Thanks!
Last edited by klokwerk; 02-03-2016 at 01:39 PM.
02-03-2016, 03:49 PM
#88
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Thread Starter
Singer shows more of the process on their website:
http://singervehicledesign.com/works/ (select "Process" to see build pics)
http://singervehicledesign.com/works/ (select "Process" to see build pics)
02-03-2016, 06:48 PM
#90
Racer
Singer shows more of the process on their website:
http://singervehicledesign.com/works/ (select "Process" to see build pics)
http://singervehicledesign.com/works/ (select "Process" to see build pics)
Nothing but praise for their work. Super impressive!