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Old Jun 18, 2011 | 07:38 PM
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Had to replace the chain to block gasket on the left side and managed to knock the cam timing way out of spec, things just didn't sound right after I put it back together, so I dropped the engine last week.

It looks like I'm lucky that only the rockers broke!
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Old Jun 18, 2011 | 07:40 PM
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Ouch. No bent valves?!
Old Jun 18, 2011 | 07:43 PM
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Lou - that hurts! Hope everything else is ok. I think you will be VERY lucky if it is.
Old Jun 18, 2011 | 07:51 PM
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Shawn

I certainly hope so!

I'll have to talk to my club experts to see how to check for any other damage.

Gonna do a compression and leakdown test.
Old Jun 19, 2011 | 03:56 AM
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I can almost guarantee that the valves are bent!
Old Jun 19, 2011 | 10:13 AM
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How the hell did that happen? Did you exceed redline or do something crazy?
Old Jun 19, 2011 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by campoj2
How the hell did that happen? Did you exceed redline or do something crazy?

Campo...think about what would happen if the cam ain't in sync with the firing of the plugs...if a valve/rocker assy is not in the right spot when the plug ignites the fuel.
Old Jun 19, 2011 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by KaiB
Campo...think about what would happen if the cam ain't in sync with the firing of the plugs...if a valve/rocker assy is not in the right spot when the plug ignites the fuel.
I don't think so . If you screw up the valve adjustment such that the valve is held off the seat , the explosion will not press down the valve and snap the rocker arm from my experience . The fact that the valve is open really dampens what the explosion can do . If the valve is open when the piston is coming up to near tdc / spark , the compression will be , not so good , the fuel air mixture will be pushed out of the cylinder before being set off .

The 964 motor is an interference motor , that all three broke tells me that the pistons kissed the valves .

Long ago my father bought my brother a rebuilt 356 motor for my brother .
My brother and I went and picked it up from the rebuilder , when we got it home we put it up on the bench and tried to turn it over by hand , it would turn up to a point then lock up , we could turn it pretty far in the other direction until it locked up again . This was before my first car , before I really knew anything about anything . I thought that it locked up like that was wrong but I really had no clue why we could turn it back and forth so far before it would lock up hard .
Looking back I can see that the guy who bebuilt it never spun the motor before he sold it . He sent it out the door with a fatal flaw .
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Old Jun 19, 2011 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by altarchsa
I can almost guarantee that the valves are bent!
Can I get in on that action ?
Old Jun 19, 2011 | 12:04 PM
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I don't think so . If you screw up the valve adjustment such that the valve is held off the seat

But in this case the OP bumped the cam timing off, we don't know which direction, but can deduce...
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Originally Posted by KaiB
I don't think so . If you screw up the valve adjustment such that the valve is held off the seat

But in this case the OP bumped the cam timing off, we don't know which direction, but can deduce...
Your thinking was that the valve was off the seat , the explosion happened and that is what broke the rocker arm ?
I gave an example of the valve being off the seat that is common and does not lead to broken rocker arms .
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It seems to me, for all 3 rockers to break, there must have been something stopping the valves. "PISTONS" !!!!!! Sorry to say Louz, but that would be my first guess, and if that is the case, you will also have bent valves.
Old Jun 19, 2011 | 02:22 PM
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ugh, sorry to hear this....hopefully not too bad.
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$5 says teardown will be required to really ascertain the extent of the damage; the likelihood that only the rockers are damaged is pretty small...
Old Jun 19, 2011 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by FeralComprehension
the likelihood that only the rockers are damaged is pretty small...
Or zero. Basically what happened with all the Day One-to-3.2L cars when a tensioner laid down. Pop heads off, replace guides, surface heads, replace whatever valves are bent, reassemble............



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