slow-time 89 C4 project
07-03-2011, 02:55 PM
#16
Three Wheelin'
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not really 964 related but I threw a new workbench together today from some scrap lying around - total cost £0 
To make a little more space in the garage its sized to take 4 spare wheels underneath.
From the front it looks like it might be a bit flimsy, I didn't have quite enough material to add all the bracing I'd intended, but actually its nice and solid thanks to plyboard sides and back.
To make a little more space in the garage its sized to take 4 spare wheels underneath.
From the front it looks like it might be a bit flimsy, I didn't have quite enough material to add all the bracing I'd intended, but actually its nice and solid thanks to plyboard sides and back.
07-03-2011, 09:11 PM
#17
not really 964 related but I threw a new workbench together today from some scrap lying around - total cost £0
To make a little more space in the garage its sized to take 4 spare wheels underneath.
From the front it looks like it might be a bit flimsy, I didn't have quite enough material to add all the bracing I'd intended, but actually its nice and solid thanks to plyboard sides and back.
To make a little more space in the garage its sized to take 4 spare wheels underneath.
From the front it looks like it might be a bit flimsy, I didn't have quite enough material to add all the bracing I'd intended, but actually its nice and solid thanks to plyboard sides and back.
07-20-2011, 09:00 PM
#18
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
shortly there'll be some posts about fitting my new bilstein sport shocks and h&r springs to the 964, but before that I thought I'd share some pics of the car that's currently taking up space in the garage.
1992 Nissan Skyline R32 GTSt (straight 6, 24 valve 2.0l single turbo) pictured on track at the old Snetterton circuit. Factory 210bhp, gently modified and mapped by me ~270bhp at the flywheel on low boost (the dyno plot below is from a chassis dyno so its shown at the hubs). It's a couple of hundred kilos lighter than the 964 and so a little faster. The main difference between the two is that the heads it turns are twenty years younger than those turned by the 964.
1992 Nissan Skyline R32 GTSt (straight 6, 24 valve 2.0l single turbo) pictured on track at the old Snetterton circuit. Factory 210bhp, gently modified and mapped by me ~270bhp at the flywheel on low boost (the dyno plot below is from a chassis dyno so its shown at the hubs). It's a couple of hundred kilos lighter than the 964 and so a little faster. The main difference between the two is that the heads it turns are twenty years younger than those turned by the 964.
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08-07-2011, 07:27 PM
#19
Three Wheelin'
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Bilstein sports, H&R Blues, 21mm rear ARB all now fitted.
Camber checked: 1deg front, .5deg rear. Which will do until I get it geo-ed properly.
Results: much lighter on its feet mid corner than before. Slightly disconcerting at the moment, as I have got used to the secure feel of the stock handling. But it is fairly neutural I think so I think I will get used to it.
Camber checked: 1deg front, .5deg rear. Which will do until I get it geo-ed properly.
Results: much lighter on its feet mid corner than before. Slightly disconcerting at the moment, as I have got used to the secure feel of the stock handling. But it is fairly neutural I think so I think I will get used to it.
08-07-2011, 07:32 PM
#20
Three Wheelin'
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In addition to the suspension jobs I needed to address a nasty gemlin in the abs. I had cause to do a couple of emergency stops just recently, I noticed that shortly after the abs kicked in the brake effect reduced substantially, making for very log stopping distances. After some reading around on here I self diagnosed faulty accelerometers. So I pulled them today and sure enough both were clogged with iron filings, some careful cleaning and they are now moving freely again and a quick test drive confirms normal service is resumed.
08-08-2011, 09:37 AM
#21
Bilstein sports, H&R Blues, 21mm rear ARB all now fitted.
Camber checked: 1deg front, .5deg rear. Which will do until I get it geo-ed properly.
Results: much lighter on its feet mid corner than before. Slightly disconcerting at the moment, as I have got used to the secure feel of the stock handling. But it is fairly neutural I think so I think I will get used to it.
Camber checked: 1deg front, .5deg rear. Which will do until I get it geo-ed properly.
Results: much lighter on its feet mid corner than before. Slightly disconcerting at the moment, as I have got used to the secure feel of the stock handling. But it is fairly neutural I think so I think I will get used to it.
In addition to the suspension jobs I needed to address a nasty gemlin in the abs. I had cause to do a couple of emergency stops just recently, I noticed that shortly after the abs kicked in the brake effect reduced substantially, making for very log stopping distances. After some reading around on here I self diagnosed faulty accelerometers. So I pulled them today and sure enough both were clogged with iron filings, some careful cleaning and they are now moving freely again and a quick test drive confirms normal service is resumed.
Have to say you were looking very sharp with that new stance on Sunday! Was going to get some rear shots of you at speed... but the battery died! Next time!
08-08-2011, 01:02 PM
#22
Three Wheelin'
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Thanks chap, kind of you to say so. I do ache all over from the effort getting the suspension finished on saturday night, but sunday was such a great day out it was well worth it.
08-14-2011, 04:39 PM
#23
Three Wheelin'
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Just a little job this weekend, new 993 engine mounts, little bit of an expensive whim that one, since I'm not 100% sure my old ones were shot. The drivers side one had twice the gap of the passenger side one so I guess that means one or both were worn out. . .
03-20-2013, 05:44 PM
#24
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
Right, fast-forward 18 months:
Then ...
Dropped the car into Nine Excellence on Jan 7th. The idea being to do a full respray, rust remedy, new exhaust flange welded on and a geo tweak - all to then have the car back by end of Jan in time for a couple of shakedown track days and some time for me to do some maintenance prior to Spa.
Didn't quite go that way as the bodyshop only really got started in the last week of Jan and the car ended up needing to got back to metal pretty much all over. The bonnet was too lumpy to rescue (replacement kindly provided by Freedman) and the passenger wing (fender to our colonial friends) was more filler than metal (provided somewhat pricely second hand off ebay, as porsche had no stock and no delivery date). The 964 rear quarter glass wouldn't play with the 993 rubbers. The rear wiper snapped in the process of refitting. The rear bumper support brackets sheared of with the bolts needing a egregiously expensive replacement from Porsche. Probably plenty more that I didn't even get to hear about.... on the up side the rust didn't turn out to be too bad!
By the time the car did get back to 9e it was in a queue of 964s which had formed behind a certain blue 964 (no names mentioned, cough, James), which shall we say was proving a challenge.
Then when it did finally get its turn the exhaust welding required the h/e removing which only gave up the fight along with 8 exhaust manifold sheared studs! As you'd expect of course 50% of the electrics on the car went fuzt during the intervening period. Oh and the factory decat pipe's flange was just bad enough to warrant a shiny 9e replacement.
Running close to the wire I asked 9e to bleed the brakes and fit some H&R roll bars to go with the improved geo (interestingly James pretty much concurred with the settings that came out of recent discussion amongst the C4 crew on this board).
I've now picked the car up with 1 clear day before leaving for Spa, which is running closer than I'd ever want. It's a bit dark out now to call it on the paint job but indications are good. The suspension setup along with the H&R ARBs has transformed the car.
The bill is impressive, though the bodywork was a fixed price and very reasonable for the effort that has gone in, so real the damage was mostly unexpected parts (~£2k) and labour on the exhaust stud removal and the few bits I'd normally have done myself (~£1k).
Couple of remaining bits that will go back to the bodyshop after spa:
Other bits:
Pics imminent (hopefully more to follow)
- Few thousand miles
- Couple of track days
- Cup 1's fitted with some track day rubber
- Engine drop under my belt for a new clutch and sundry seals and assorted do-hickeys and thing-ums.
Then ...
- Got tired of fighting a loosing battle against water ingress
- Got worried by a cracked h/e flange
- Lost sleep over expanding rust spots
- Annoyed by spreading micro blisters
Dropped the car into Nine Excellence on Jan 7th. The idea being to do a full respray, rust remedy, new exhaust flange welded on and a geo tweak - all to then have the car back by end of Jan in time for a couple of shakedown track days and some time for me to do some maintenance prior to Spa.
Didn't quite go that way as the bodyshop only really got started in the last week of Jan and the car ended up needing to got back to metal pretty much all over. The bonnet was too lumpy to rescue (replacement kindly provided by Freedman) and the passenger wing (fender to our colonial friends) was more filler than metal (provided somewhat pricely second hand off ebay, as porsche had no stock and no delivery date). The 964 rear quarter glass wouldn't play with the 993 rubbers. The rear wiper snapped in the process of refitting. The rear bumper support brackets sheared of with the bolts needing a egregiously expensive replacement from Porsche. Probably plenty more that I didn't even get to hear about.... on the up side the rust didn't turn out to be too bad!
By the time the car did get back to 9e it was in a queue of 964s which had formed behind a certain blue 964 (no names mentioned, cough, James), which shall we say was proving a challenge.
Then when it did finally get its turn the exhaust welding required the h/e removing which only gave up the fight along with 8 exhaust manifold sheared studs! As you'd expect of course 50% of the electrics on the car went fuzt during the intervening period. Oh and the factory decat pipe's flange was just bad enough to warrant a shiny 9e replacement.
Running close to the wire I asked 9e to bleed the brakes and fit some H&R roll bars to go with the improved geo (interestingly James pretty much concurred with the settings that came out of recent discussion amongst the C4 crew on this board).
I've now picked the car up with 1 clear day before leaving for Spa, which is running closer than I'd ever want. It's a bit dark out now to call it on the paint job but indications are good. The suspension setup along with the H&R ARBs has transformed the car.
The bill is impressive, though the bodywork was a fixed price and very reasonable for the effort that has gone in, so real the damage was mostly unexpected parts (~£2k) and labour on the exhaust stud removal and the few bits I'd normally have done myself (~£1k).
Couple of remaining bits that will go back to the bodyshop after spa:
- Passenger door and maybe front wing need aligning better.
- Rear spoiler has an ugly bit of touch up paint applied where the mopping got a bit enthusiastic and burnt through.
- The mop has left some micro swirls which max polish and wax out - or not.
Other bits:
- Sunroof has had a tantrum and possibly snapped a cable.
- Brake pedal seems a bit soft but then i don't think it was that hard to start with - just after 3 months I can't decide if it is significantly worse.
- After 3 months of driving something with ~150bhp more power the old 964 seems a little asthmatic.
Pics imminent (hopefully more to follow)
03-20-2013, 05:52 PM
#27
Burning Brakes
We are both indebted to James & Ken at 9e, over and above the call of duty with all hours and two weekends solid to get us to Spa. Your car looks fab, I'm looking forward to sharing a cold beer with you, Ken and James 
03-20-2013, 05:57 PM
#30
Three Wheelin'
Thread Starter
This evening they had the haunted yet joyful look of men that had just heard news that a long and bloody war was over and they could now go back to their normal lives. Great effort!