Harold

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by RENNMAN:
<strong>Greetings Adrian,

You may be under the wrong impression about your car becoming a "Ruf" and no longer a "Porsche".

As you may or may not know a true Ruf is built from a bare bodytub or "body in white" from Porsche, at least they were during the 911/964/993 era. (I have heard recently some Ruf 996 cars are built from completed Porsche built cars.)

Your car should be considered a "conversion". It should still cary the Porsche vin# after the conversion. A factory built Ruf would have it's own Ruf chassis number. Here in the states conversions sell for far less than the ground up cars as they are considered modified Porsches, even though by Alois Ruf. I am sure your car will still be awsome just not the same. (How will they get the undercoating off as on a ground up car? What about the sunroof?)

If I wanted to own a Ruf I would only buy one with a Ruf chassis number not a Porsche with a Ruf conversion. When one of these comes on the market the difference can be misleading to someone who does not know. Something to think about and just another opinion.

Best,

Don A.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">True that a body in white is the only way to get a RUF vin, but Porsche's that have been modified at RUF still command significant premiums such that the capital investment in the car is never entirely lost (unlike most other modifications).

Damian in NJ

Issue 66 of Total 911 has a cover story on a 964 Turbo Cabriolet, which is claimed to have been sold originally as a Carrera 2 Turbo Look Cab then sent back to the factory Exclusiv department for conversion; they claim 4 total were done. The car was (or is) for sale by a main Porsche dealer in the UK, Porsche Bristol.

986986

Cough cough......they are real as per one for sale at moment 6 where made in total 3 to the UK, 2 to Germany and 1 to Australia...note the last 3 or so images that show official delivery documents and accompanying letter from Porsche verifying pedigree

http://www.classicthrottleshop.com.a...nclassic5.html

f@tboy

Indeed, a friend of mine and local club member owns a factory 964 3.6 turbo cab

hawk911

can we get a documented VIN and pics?

986986

Check my link all the VIN and factory documentation is photographed and documented

911porschefan

The letter states they were built with 3.3L engines, but the ad states its a 3.6L.

f3nr15

I think it's lovely!

The car was originally ordered by Aussie trucking magnate Lindsay Fox. He has a collection of nice cars, the Fox Classic Car Collection:

Fox Classic Car Collection

I think the car is a 3.3 turbo, despite its very late build date. More info here:

Rare Porsche Turbo Cabriolet at Shannons

Interestingly, the photos show that the car was built in Sept 1993 and complied to Australian Standards in the same month. Normally, there's a bit of a wait between the manufacture and compliance, which reflects the shipping from Germany and then the compulsory wait in the queue. E.g, my 1993 car was built in Feb, but complianced in July. I suppose this reflects that Mr Fox is likely to have had some insiders working on the delivery.

Also of note, the car having a Sept build date is still designated as a '93 VIN ("WP0ZZZ96ZPS") rather than a '94 VIN (which would have been "96ZRS"). The new model year normally takes effect in August, so I presume they used a chassis left over from the '93 model year for the build.

Timme Herber

Another nice 964 cabrio turbo. What do you experts think of this car?
http://www.2dehands.be/autos/autos/p...st_cat=porsche
Thanks!