Wet Carpets - Suspect Leaky Window Seals?
08-03-2012 | 03:44 PM
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Wet Carpets - Suspect Leaky Window Seals?
I have had my car almost a year now, and during that time i have had leaks that have been driving me crazy, I have removed the interior several times and now have it down to a fine art!
The previous owner had the car resprayed about 4 years ago as the paint was oxidising and looking shabby, during which, I am led to believe that the windows and rubbers were removed.
In my quest to resolve the water feature inside my car, I did a fair bit of searching on here and found out about the all too common sunroof drains becoming blocked/detached. Upon inspection of mine, surprise surprise the drivers side rear drain was detached and draining inside the car. Now i fixed this problem back in the winter and since then have been fairly dry inside the car, that said, the car lives under a waterproof cover and is only really driven in the dry so hadn't had an opportunity to get wet...
Soo... two weeks ago I departed on a 1600 mile round trip to the french alps, all was good during my journey there, despite the 10 hours of torrential rain... needless to say when I unpacked the car the next morning I was greeted by an olympic sized swimming pool inside the car, filling the front and rear footwells on both the passenger and drivers side. I cleaned it up and started my holiday by once again stripping out the interior to leave it dry out in the sun.
I also got a hose out and tested the front and rear window seals, you guessed it, they both leak! the front allows a dribble through but the rear is worse allowing through a steady stream of drips.
Now, heres the question; when the windows were reinstalled after the respray, should they have been bonded in? If so, what should have been used and where can I get hold of the stuff? Anyone else had a similar experience?
The previous owner had the car resprayed about 4 years ago as the paint was oxidising and looking shabby, during which, I am led to believe that the windows and rubbers were removed.
In my quest to resolve the water feature inside my car, I did a fair bit of searching on here and found out about the all too common sunroof drains becoming blocked/detached. Upon inspection of mine, surprise surprise the drivers side rear drain was detached and draining inside the car. Now i fixed this problem back in the winter and since then have been fairly dry inside the car, that said, the car lives under a waterproof cover and is only really driven in the dry so hadn't had an opportunity to get wet...
Soo... two weeks ago I departed on a 1600 mile round trip to the french alps, all was good during my journey there, despite the 10 hours of torrential rain... needless to say when I unpacked the car the next morning I was greeted by an olympic sized swimming pool inside the car, filling the front and rear footwells on both the passenger and drivers side. I cleaned it up and started my holiday by once again stripping out the interior to leave it dry out in the sun.
I also got a hose out and tested the front and rear window seals, you guessed it, they both leak! the front allows a dribble through but the rear is worse allowing through a steady stream of drips.
Now, heres the question; when the windows were reinstalled after the respray, should they have been bonded in? If so, what should have been used and where can I get hold of the stuff? Anyone else had a similar experience?
08-03-2012 | 03:58 PM
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Back in the days I used to use this forum regularly, the question of whether 964 windscreens should be bonded in or not was one of the topics that caused most arguments!
At least when I had my windscreen replaced, it was not bonded in - it also didn't leak. Had the roof / rear engine lid repainted at one point, and I don't think the bodyshop bonded the rear window in either.
So I don't think your problem is lack of bonding - it sounds more like poorly fitted windows / rubbers.
At least when I had my windscreen replaced, it was not bonded in - it also didn't leak. Had the roof / rear engine lid repainted at one point, and I don't think the bodyshop bonded the rear window in either.
So I don't think your problem is lack of bonding - it sounds more like poorly fitted windows / rubbers.
08-03-2012 | 05:59 PM
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No glue is needed!
If the windows and rubbers are in good order, no problems.
They leak when the rubber ages (becomes hard) or the copy glass is too small, or due to rust on the aperture.
The bonnets are prone to leaking, looks like the screen.
Mayb a poor fitment of a glass?
Bring it to wales run on the 26th, ill have a look for you.
If the windows and rubbers are in good order, no problems.
They leak when the rubber ages (becomes hard) or the copy glass is too small, or due to rust on the aperture.
The bonnets are prone to leaking, looks like the screen.
Mayb a poor fitment of a glass?
Bring it to wales run on the 26th, ill have a look for you.
08-04-2012 | 05:54 PM
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That's interesting to hear! I'm guessing the body shop used the original rubbers when they refitted the windows as they don't look particularly fresh. I guess its time to invest in some new rubbers and get the glass out for an inspection...
08-06-2012 | 11:01 AM
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Make sure the plastic sheet on the inside of the door has not failed. It shrinks and often comes loose. This allows water coming down the windows to enter the car at the bottom of the door. The older 911's had an additional water deflector added to prevent this. When I replaced the plastic, I added an additional piece for this purpose.
