Electrify your classic?
#16
Rennlist Member
As an urban commuter, no question it's doable, especially with a home charger but as someone who frequently road trips, it doesn't work. For example, on what's normally a 2.5 hour drive to Utah, we had to stop and charge for 20 mins so we could get to the destination and make it back to the charger so we could then charge it again to get home, lol.
#17
As an urban commuter, no question it's doable, especially with a home charger but as someone who frequently road trips, it doesn't work. For example, on what's normally a 2.5 hour drive to Utah, we had to stop and charge for 20 mins so we could get to the destination and make it back to the charger so we could then charge it again to get home, lol.
Roundtrip travel is one area that needs further development with EV charging. Tesla’s point A to B algorithms are great for fast charging and time, but their roundtrip is lacking. It’s great I can get to point B but if I don’t have enough charge to get back to a charger, it’s pointless. Then there’s the whole, if you are above a percent of charge, you can’t supercharge; so to charge adequately for the roundtrip, it takes more time. Come on!
#18
As an urban commuter, no question it's doable, especially with a home charger but as someone who frequently road trips, it doesn't work. For example, on what's normally a 2.5 hour drive to Utah, we had to stop and charge for 20 mins so we could get to the destination and make it back to the charger so we could then charge it again to get home, lol.
#20
Rennlist Member
How old a classic are we talking about? How about an electric car from 1897, which was one of the best selling cars at the time?
If you want something a little more modern, you could stick with Porsche, and even go hybrid.
You just might want to replace the battery, though.
If you want something a little more modern, you could stick with Porsche, and even go hybrid.
You just might want to replace the battery, though.
#21
Instructor
I’m waiting for a gasoline still that pulls carbon from the air and combines it with water and solar power to make fuel at home. Chemical batteries just aren’t as good a storage medium as long chain hydrocarbons.
#24
Advanced
I wouldn't. In addition to losing the signature flat six sound, I suspect that EV technology will continue to improve. Today's conversion may be outdated garbage in 10 years. An air cooled Porsche will remain a classic.
#25
Rennlist Member
I have seen this thread dangling in front of me since initiated and just read through it. What an absurd conversation on the 964 forum. The 964 is the last air cooled Porsche with the lines of the original 911 save bumpers and a few details. Why would anyone consider taking the raison d'être and mucking around with 2022 electric drive and effectively neutering it not to mention whatever refit will be dated two years out. Electric cars are mandated to be our future but keep your mitts off of these icoms. I do think that future EV sports cars will be fantastic but don't cobble up a great AC 911 just to assuage some religious guilt.
#27
Rennlist Member
Alway thought this was the best approach, a hybrid:
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...-hybrid-drive/
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...-hybrid-drive/
#28
I believe they had a 964 at a BCR drive last year starting at a shop in Santa Rosa. I think that was the name but not certain. I find it to be an interesting and perhaps logical approach and very much of the times. That said I would not install that in my car even if I were paid to do so. I enjoy and appreciate the 29 year old tech that my car left the factory with. There are and will be lots of high tech new electric cars that will take us forward into the future. If you want your 964 to go fast then build/have built for you a 3.8 with cool bits, itb injection, etc. Keep it old school. My 2 cents.
https://www.everrati.com/
#29
Rennlist Member
It feels and sounds like an arcade game; the double stainless steel pipes aren’t over-the-top exhausts, they’re actually speakers; and its flat-six engine has been replaced by an electric motor.
This one’s been converted by an Oxfordshire company called Everrati.
Acknowledging that half the fun of a sports car is the noise it makes, they’ve added audible innovations, including digital revs that are selected from an app and connected to the accelerator pedal.
Haptics even allow the bodywork, gearstick and steering wheel to vibrate when I blip the throttle, to simulate the experience of punching cylinders mounted in the rear. The performance is superior to its internal combustion past. This is by far the most joyful EV I’ve driven so far.
The engine is, traditionally, considered a car’s heart and soul, which explains why ripping one out is considered sacrilege by many classic connoisseurs.
So why would someone gut the insides of a petrol-quaffing Carrera and replace it with a more modern, electric powertrain?
According to Car SOS’s Fuzz Townshend, classic cars could run better after being converted to run on electric power and thus offer a ‘more pleasurable driving experience’. It’s also true that even under the most diligent maintenance routine, classic cars have a reputation for being unreliable.
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#30
Racer
With all this said, I do agree with GeorgeJ that the engine is the heart of and soul of a car. But that doesn't mean that heart & soul can't be electric. To me, it means that it's what moves us and makes us want to drive more.
I don't agree that half the fun is in the sound it makes. Maybe 10%. I do love the sound at 7k rpm!
We're all familiar with the history of the aircooled flat six wonder that's in our cars. Here's a good run down by Hagerty.com.
Note the long section of where Porsche, from 1965 on, made constant fixes to address problems inherent in the design/manufacturing of the engine. They knew that constant improvement kept the breed alive.
Porsche themselves gave up and went water cooled, and now are seeing the light with electrification and the Taycan.
There's no denying the performance gains and lower cost of ownership when going electric. For those two reasons alone I'd convert.
Even though I'd posted here earlier, regarding the high cost of a conversion, my enthusiasim for electrification hasn't changed.
Maybe, the solution for me is just around the corner. An electric 718 could make me jump ship.
I don't agree that half the fun is in the sound it makes. Maybe 10%. I do love the sound at 7k rpm!
We're all familiar with the history of the aircooled flat six wonder that's in our cars. Here's a good run down by Hagerty.com.
Note the long section of where Porsche, from 1965 on, made constant fixes to address problems inherent in the design/manufacturing of the engine. They knew that constant improvement kept the breed alive.
Porsche themselves gave up and went water cooled, and now are seeing the light with electrification and the Taycan.
There's no denying the performance gains and lower cost of ownership when going electric. For those two reasons alone I'd convert.
Even though I'd posted here earlier, regarding the high cost of a conversion, my enthusiasim for electrification hasn't changed.
Maybe, the solution for me is just around the corner. An electric 718 could make me jump ship.