HVAC trouble
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I've got some trouble with my 964's HVAC: while the CCU and all servo motors work flawlessly, I've got some trouble with the footwells: firstly, the amount of airflow on the passenger's side (my 964 MJ90 is an LHD) can't be change, no matter how much I move the slider on the CCU, secondly, the one on the driver's side does react but opposite to the movement of the slider (i.e., slider to the left (closed): high flow; slider to the right (open): nearly no flow).
There are no errors visible in diagnostics, so it might be an error with the lever, but how to check and adjust the lever without having to take tank, firewall, fuse box etc. out in order to have access the HVAC unit? – Any workaround to more easily access the footwell flaps and the connecting lever to see if the right-side flab might have become unhinged?
Thanks and best regards
Michael
There are no errors visible in diagnostics, so it might be an error with the lever, but how to check and adjust the lever without having to take tank, firewall, fuse box etc. out in order to have access the HVAC unit? – Any workaround to more easily access the footwell flaps and the connecting lever to see if the right-side flab might have become unhinged?
Thanks and best regards
Michael
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There is only one servo motor controlling the air flow to the foot well.
Your message suggests that you may think that the two mixer servos are controlling the air flow, or two flaps. The foot well servo shall open for max air flow when set to the rightmost position of the lower slider ****. There is only one flap for the footwell air flow.
See this page for identification of the servo motors: https://www.bergvillfx.com/categorie...test-procedure
I see you write you have no OBD fault codes, are you sure, which OBD tool are you using? Only a handful of OBD tools can access the CCU. (Scantool with home made serial adapter or T-OBD, Bosch KTS 301 "Hammer", KTS500/PST-2, PIWIS v1/2, Durametric and Jennisken PDT/UDT-999)
If you experience difference in air flow, I guess you have a problem with a mixer servo instead of the foot well servo. If one of the mixer flaps is stuck in the closed position, the air flow will be very weak on that side of the dashboard when the temp **** is set to anything above minimum. (depending on ambient and cabin temp) If so, set to minimum temp and see if the air flow is better. A faulty/stuck servo is very commonly seen, and will produce a CCU fault code.
Cheers,
Tore
Your message suggests that you may think that the two mixer servos are controlling the air flow, or two flaps. The foot well servo shall open for max air flow when set to the rightmost position of the lower slider ****. There is only one flap for the footwell air flow.
See this page for identification of the servo motors: https://www.bergvillfx.com/categorie...test-procedure
I see you write you have no OBD fault codes, are you sure, which OBD tool are you using? Only a handful of OBD tools can access the CCU. (Scantool with home made serial adapter or T-OBD, Bosch KTS 301 "Hammer", KTS500/PST-2, PIWIS v1/2, Durametric and Jennisken PDT/UDT-999)
If you experience difference in air flow, I guess you have a problem with a mixer servo instead of the foot well servo. If one of the mixer flaps is stuck in the closed position, the air flow will be very weak on that side of the dashboard when the temp **** is set to anything above minimum. (depending on ambient and cabin temp) If so, set to minimum temp and see if the air flow is better. A faulty/stuck servo is very commonly seen, and will produce a CCU fault code.
Cheers,
Tore
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Thank you all!
@ToreB , yes, that servo motor for the foot wells is moving; I'm using the UDT-999, and it confirms that all temperature sensors are fine. It can't check on the servo motors, as my 964 is model year 1990, but it's easy to feel if they are moving, so at least some feedback. From what I understand the servo motor for the foot well flaps has a rod to one of the flaps and both flaps are connected (and synchronized) via a separate rod. – As it looks now, the flaps do not close properly, so my primary problem is how to check on those without having to extract the entire HVAC unit in the frunk.
@heliolps2 , I've tried to peek in but somehow I couldn't see anything.
@0luke1 , moving to Honululu is not an option as it is worse in warm climate with AC on.
@ToreB , yes, that servo motor for the foot wells is moving; I'm using the UDT-999, and it confirms that all temperature sensors are fine. It can't check on the servo motors, as my 964 is model year 1990, but it's easy to feel if they are moving, so at least some feedback. From what I understand the servo motor for the foot well flaps has a rod to one of the flaps and both flaps are connected (and synchronized) via a separate rod. – As it looks now, the flaps do not close properly, so my primary problem is how to check on those without having to extract the entire HVAC unit in the frunk.
@heliolps2 , I've tried to peek in but somehow I couldn't see anything.
@0luke1 , moving to Honululu is not an option as it is worse in warm climate with AC on.
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Thank you all!
@ToreB , yes, that servo motor for the foot wells is moving; I'm using the UDT-999, and it confirms that all temperature sensors are fine. It can't check on the servo motors, as my 964 is model year 1990, but it's easy to feel if they are moving, so at least some feedback. From what I understand the servo motor for the foot well flaps has a rod to one of the flaps and both flaps are connected (and synchronized) via a separate rod. – As it looks now, the flaps do not close properly, so my primary problem is how to check on those without having to extract the entire HVAC unit in the frunk.
@heliolps2 , I've tried to peek in but somehow I couldn't see anything.
@0luke1 , moving to Honululu is not an option as it is worse in warm climate with AC on.
@ToreB , yes, that servo motor for the foot wells is moving; I'm using the UDT-999, and it confirms that all temperature sensors are fine. It can't check on the servo motors, as my 964 is model year 1990, but it's easy to feel if they are moving, so at least some feedback. From what I understand the servo motor for the foot well flaps has a rod to one of the flaps and both flaps are connected (and synchronized) via a separate rod. – As it looks now, the flaps do not close properly, so my primary problem is how to check on those without having to extract the entire HVAC unit in the frunk.
@heliolps2 , I've tried to peek in but somehow I couldn't see anything.
@0luke1 , moving to Honululu is not an option as it is worse in warm climate with AC on.
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