Ok now that I have this in PPI - what do you guys think?
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Ok now that I have this in PPI - what do you guys think?
I've been after a C2 for a while - but I can across this C4 the other day....There are some negatives but the things I like about it are ROW - no sunroof, cruise or airbags, silver and it's in my state. I've negotiated a little off the price in the eBay ad - that said, I'm curious on your guys opinions. I'd really like a C2 and at this price, I could likely find one, so is the interesting factor of being a ROW car worth the extra money on a C4? (although, I've seen C4s going up in price lately, too).
Bad things:
Mileage not well documented (when it was imported in 2015, it was 107k km)
Undercoating ALL over it.
eBay Ad (not a very detailed listing, which is likely at least one of the reasons it's still listed.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1990-Porsch...d544%7Ciid%3A1
Many more pictures on their website:
http://www.theautorepairlady.com/car...0-porsche-911/
Also found the original listing from when the car was imported. Note: seller used some of these pictures in their listing.
I don't mind some wrenching and converting to C2 isn't out of the question.
Car currently at Gulf Performance for PPI.
Bad things:
Mileage not well documented (when it was imported in 2015, it was 107k km)
Undercoating ALL over it.
eBay Ad (not a very detailed listing, which is likely at least one of the reasons it's still listed.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1990-Porsch...d544%7Ciid%3A1
Many more pictures on their website:
http://www.theautorepairlady.com/car...0-porsche-911/
Also found the original listing from when the car was imported. Note: seller used some of these pictures in their listing.
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I don't mind some wrenching and converting to C2 isn't out of the question.
Car currently at Gulf Performance for PPI.
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The lack of mileage documentation will most likely impact the value of the car in the event you ever do go to sell it. However, if the PPI checks out and it has good compression/leak down numbers (which would be expected after engine rebuild) than I personally wouldn't be deterred by the mileage alone.
The ROW is definitely more desirable and usually adds thousands to the value of the car, but the other negatives such as undercoating everywhere would likely net out any advantages to the benefits of this car being an ROW.
You said that you negotiated a little off the car's price so for arguments sake we'll assume the price is $53,000. At this price you should be able to find a solid US spec C4 but you would be very hard-pressed to find a good condition C2 (it's possible, but any C2 coupe around $50k is sure to be sold almost instantly). If you do track days I would consider this car due to the weight savings, but if you primarily use it on the street then I would keep looking.
The ROW is definitely more desirable and usually adds thousands to the value of the car, but the other negatives such as undercoating everywhere would likely net out any advantages to the benefits of this car being an ROW.
You said that you negotiated a little off the car's price so for arguments sake we'll assume the price is $53,000. At this price you should be able to find a solid US spec C4 but you would be very hard-pressed to find a good condition C2 (it's possible, but any C2 coupe around $50k is sure to be sold almost instantly). If you do track days I would consider this car due to the weight savings, but if you primarily use it on the street then I would keep looking.
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Lovely color combination, love the bagless wheel and no sunroof. That makes the car worth more IMO, and I wouldn't worry so much about the mileage issue. Though if you're considering converting to C2, you might as well find one from the get go. Conversions are pricey, its not just removing the driveshaft.
Good luck!
Good luck!
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Lovely color combination, love the bagless wheel and no sunroof. That makes the car worth more IMO, and I wouldn't worry so much about the mileage issue. Though if you're considering converting to C2, you might as well find one from the get go. Conversions are pricey, its not just removing the driveshaft.
Good luck!
Good luck!
I do my own wrenching - not much scares me...It's a blessing and a curse . If the PPI checks out, I'll likely drive the car as-is with some minor upgrades. If a time comes when I want to dive in deeper, changing to C2 would be an option and since I do most of my own work, hopefully not a horribly expensive one.
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PPI came back - it needs some stuff. Probably about $5k of misc maintenance - mostly rubber bits...nothing important, just things like brake lines.. It's had some paint work - likely pre-import, so we will never get the story on that. Overall, it's the car I wanted but I would have liked to spend a lot less money. I'll need to do some work to bring it around, but I'm OK with that. I like the differences the ROW brings - just as a conversation piece. I do like the unique interior color but honestly, I'm uncertain how long that will remain (the interior)
I've already started looking for parts. RSA Tail is on my list - but probably most importantly...the owner put some coilovers on it and even with them adjusted all the way down, it sits really high. Not sure what direction I'll go there.
Picking up Thursday.
I've already started looking for parts. RSA Tail is on my list - but probably most importantly...the owner put some coilovers on it and even with them adjusted all the way down, it sits really high. Not sure what direction I'll go there.
Picking up Thursday.
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Regarding the RSA tail, send a PM to Smokey7766, he had one for sale no too long ago. As for the shocks/springs, it appears it has Bilstein B6 but with the stock springs, hence the 4x4 stance. You can get the FVD drop collars or shorter springs.
Some interior inspiration https://rennlist.com/forums/964-foru...l#post12080678
Some interior inspiration https://rennlist.com/forums/964-foru...l#post12080678
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Cool,color combo
sunroof delete huge plus.
C4 well added complication and weight but when it’s working proper it’s a great system
recent engine rebuild assuming proper is a 20k+ advantage. Surprised so many rubber bits need addressing?
main thing is just going in with open mind and informed. A good PPI is invaluable.
sunroof delete huge plus.
C4 well added complication and weight but when it’s working proper it’s a great system
recent engine rebuild assuming proper is a 20k+ advantage. Surprised so many rubber bits need addressing?
main thing is just going in with open mind and informed. A good PPI is invaluable.
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Cool,color combo
sunroof delete huge plus.
C4 well added complication and weight but when it’s working proper it’s a great system
recent engine rebuild assuming proper is a 20k+ advantage. Surprised so many rubber bits need addressing?
main thing is just going in with open mind and informed. A good PPI is invaluable.
sunroof delete huge plus.
C4 well added complication and weight but when it’s working proper it’s a great system
recent engine rebuild assuming proper is a 20k+ advantage. Surprised so many rubber bits need addressing?
main thing is just going in with open mind and informed. A good PPI is invaluable.
I agree. I've started to prefer cars with no tint - but will consider that clear UV protect tint that a few companies offer.
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I thought TN summers were hot, till I moved to Texas. Your A/C should keep up and remain comfortable if fully working. Mine was retrofitted with R134a, and does well. Might be worth investigating the system first.
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My squirrel cages were rattling.. This is sfter the PO had it changed over and new squirrel cages put in ( $3000 later!) so my mechanic went back in and took care of the rattle but it has never been cold since.( another 2500$! Gulp!)
now im wishing i had bought that new $3000 after market ac for older Porsches kit.
now im wishing i had bought that new $3000 after market ac for older Porsches kit.